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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for meeting inputs John, sorry your connection wasn’t working for audio today.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Responses:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8">Continuing progress on JSON Schema sounds great.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8">Please do not edit any of the specification documents that Dr. Lee submitted, we have a whole preparation process so that CSS markup of proposed/deleted/approved text can be added.
Also have QA tests automated.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8">If you want to collect your comments on those specs as issue lists, that will facilitate consideration. Clarity is key.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8">There are a great many sources of code and pseudocode for generation geometry tessellations online. Such code sources include X3D browsers, which are already aligned with X3D node
structures, with multiple open-source implementations available.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck with your work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 4, 2022 7:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu>; Myeong Won Lee <myeongwonlee@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org) <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] X3D meeting agenda 4 FEB 2022: Rigid Body Physics review, Projects Wish List, X3D implementation spreadsheet<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most of this has been discussed on the mailing list already, so if you’ve been reading me already, by all means skip this email.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Status report.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Don. I am continuing to document JSON schema generating rules in hopes of creating an XSLT version in the future, perhaps. I still need to document the field generator and maybe mess with indentation. If I get home Monday from the
doctor, etc, we can review, perhaps. I am having no issues understanding the python, thank goodness. I will work on getting the python into publishable form.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As far as C/C++/C# SAI, I have a filter which takes the <pre> text sections out of the C++ working draft, but there’s still a lot of work to do. Ideally we would create a XSLT where we could easily extract c++ data structures from X3DUOM
without extra fiddling. I posted a request to semantics-public requesting a SPARQL query runnable from python to gather dependencies for a C++ class. Also, the C++ HTML code (I haven’t investigated rendering yet) includes duplicate member functions (class
field at least), which should be addressed or recognized. This was pretty much on the first class I looked at, so I’m guessing there’s more lurking. I will continue working on the C++ after documenting JSON schema. Slowly plogging along, but wrists are
less pained, so that’s a bonus. Python code (beautifulsoup) has been posted. XSLT has not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When perusing the C++ interfaces HTML docs, I noticed multiple references to Java, so that should probably be addressed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> X3DJSONLD and JSON to STL has been placed on a back burner for now. I am seeking coworking opportunities, particularly a mathematician/geometer who can help with tessellation PROTOs for spheres, cones, cylinders, etc. Anyone?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would be advantageous to me if someone could point out good Node.js packages for querying XML with some examples. I know of querySelector and querySelectorAll in HTML/CSS JavaScript.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If someone has had good results with copilot/codex/gpt-3, please share!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 12:01 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We again meet this week 08-0900 Pacific on Web3D Consortium zoom line.<o:p></o:p></p>
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X3D4 Rigid Body Physics component: Dick Puk and I have nearly finished resolving 20 editorial comments in Mantis issue tracker. A number of phrasing improvements are included, no design changes, updated default values for various axis fields (0 0 0 is a degenerate
vector). Further final clarifications and suggestions welcome.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Mantis issue tracker (tag V4.0 Resolution, filter ‘physics’)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m1447248964185919364msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level2 lfo1">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Extensible 3D (X3D) v4, Part 1: Architecture and base components, Clause 37 Rigid body physics<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m1447248964185919364msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l5 level2 lfo2">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-CD1/Part01/components/rigidBodyPhysics.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-CD1/Part01/components/rigidBodyPhysics.html</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Projects Wish List continuing discussion<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Work with MeshLab and Blender seems especially important.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m1447248964185919364msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo3">
Can we add “how to get involved?” to each major item.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m1447248964185919364msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo3">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/projects/wish-list" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/projects/wish-list</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Is someone interested in leading updates to our X3D support spreadsheet?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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X3D Node Inventory Comparison<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m1447248964185919364msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="m1447248964185919364msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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