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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>perhaps we could think of things as streamed over space,</li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Or, perhaps we could think of time as streamed over space. </p><p class=MsoNormal>Maybe a set of time stamped events streaming through spacetime so that </p><p class=MsoNormal>Same place same time </p><p class=MsoNormal>sameplace different time </p><p class=MsoNormal>different place same time </p><p class=MsoNormal>different time different place </p><p class=MsoNormal>different time same place </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Streaming X3D. All ya gotta do is stream the scene context and its interactions in the ‘correct’ sequence. Or stream a script that then gets executed to produce events in the scene. Mainly, before you stream a geometry, you must first tell it where to place it in the scene and define its interactions, then you can stream the geometry. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Is it fundamental that an x3d browser basically is set up so that it can accept a stream of data that gets processed by the browser to build and update the scene, and then the browser can stream the scene to what interaction device(s), and also to stream data of status and commands to other browsers and whatever. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, February 14, 2022 4:36 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] "Let's rename everything the Metaverse!”</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is normal to think of things as streamed over time, but perhaps we could think of things as streamed over space, that is, fixed geometry?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is a document something that is streamed over space, too?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hmm.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Feb 14,po 2022 at 4:06 AM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>I think the first step may be to advance a streaming World Wide Web. That is, immediate mode, not structured mode.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>We have two types of serializers in X3DJSONLD, one that looks like a hierarchical document and one that looks like a list of commands. We just need to advance XML and other encodings into streaming. I believe this has been done with StAX as well, but I don’t know the details.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>Can streaming be done with documents?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>The world is not a document, AFAIK.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>Note that you can do networking in user space to advance the number of connections on a server.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>What is a “scene”? Do we need emitted and collected object ids?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 2:33 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p>Enjoy the video post by Dr. Mike Zyda, editor of IEEE Computer Games column:</p><p> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:45.6pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Michael Zyda, " Let’s rename everything the Metaverse! " </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:45.6pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>IEEE Computer, The Games Column #4, May 2022. (22:28 min)</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:45.6pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMa-nJPmYJo" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMa-nJPmYJo</a></p><p><br>“<span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#030303;background:#F9F9F9'>Abstract – almost every online game is being renamed as a portal to the Metaverse. All of these different Metaversi are currently not capable of sharing your friend’s list, your avatar or any in-game experience you have had - this needs to be engineered in from the start for the Metaverse to succeed.”</span></p><p> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:45.6pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Mike Zyda publications</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:45.6pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://mikezyda.com/Publications" target="_blank">https://mikezyda.com/Publications</a></p><p> </p><p>Enjoy! As he requests, also please have a transcendent day.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'> </p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:9.6pt'>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>