<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This page on our web3d wiki : <a href="https://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_and_HTML5_examples" class="" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">https://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_and_HTML5_examples</a> : was reviewed at the Aug 30 Communication group meeting.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The page present a number of variations on presenting X3D content, either inline or as a URL to an x3d file, in HTML markup embedded in an <object> tag. Historically, these examples are from a time in which plug-ins to a web browser would be a relevant deployment method for X3D content.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So to consider updating this page, I'd like to propose an assertion: I'd would be really like for it to be demonstrated wrong, but I think, unfortunately, that it is correct:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"At this time (August 2022), there is no publically distributed plug-in software that works for current version of a major browser (Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Safari) that displays X3D presented in an <object> tag"</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Comments, especially a demonstrable example of such a current available plug-in, would be welcome! Obviously, the two major javascript-based libraries, X3DOM and X-ITE, are functional, available, and vital, but they are not the same as browser plugins.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And also, the current browsers are configurable so that they can retrieve an X3D file from the web and open it on the desktop with a stand-alone X3D viewer such as Instant Player, again, this is not the same as a plugin.</div><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thank you for comments</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Vince Marchetti</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 29, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" class="">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I searched google for #X3D<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Search returned targets with example questions</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">One was:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">What is X3D in html?</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Answer - X3D embedded in HTML page using object tag</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">an example HTML scene with X3D object tag to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">copy, edit and reuse.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Jul 10, 2012<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">With link to:</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_and_HTML5_examples" class="">https://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_and_HTML5_examples</a></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">X3D and HTML5 examples -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://web3d.org/" class="">Web3D.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Which is historical reference to those days using object or embed,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">neglecting the skip through iframe to arrive with canvas container.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Anyway, old set of examples that should be marked Important History and cloned to x3d4 standalone and hosted in html.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks x3d,</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; 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