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<body style="overflow-wrap:break-word; word-break: break-word;"><div class="mail_android_message" style="line-height: 1; padding: 0.5em">Instant correction:<br/><br/>Should replace "Hardware" by "Machine" (can be a virtual machine)<br/><br/>--<br/>Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.</div><div class="mail_android_quote" style="line-height: 1; padding: 0.3em"><html><body>Am 17.09.22, 11:21 schrieb Christoph Valentin <christoph.valentin@gmx.at>:</body></html><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0.8ex 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Hi John, Hi Don,
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Sorry for my late reaction.
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What do you think about this?
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Kind regards,
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Christoph
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 16. September 2022 um 18:05 Uhr
<br> <b>Von:</b> "John Carlson" <yottzumm@gmail.com>
<br> <b>An:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at>
<br> <b>Cc:</b> "X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)" <x3d-public@web3d.org>, "Don Brutzman" <brutzman@nps.edu>
<br> <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [x3d-public] X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams
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Doug Sanden suggested we include Web Assembly (WASM). Presumably it would be compiling an X3D Browser. I am not sure if we are going to compile X3D applications to WASM, but it's a nice thought!
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:00 PM Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>> wrote:
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Hi all,
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<br> Sorry for my "brain farts", but one silly idea.
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<br> If X3D is ONE standard (for WebGL, OpenGL and DirectX)
<br> and if X3D is backwards compatible with VRML worlds,
<br> and if some future development (which need not carry the name "X3D") will be backwards compatible with X3D,
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<br> then,
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<br> why shouldn't we draw another contiguous block below the "X3D Application" and call this block
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<br> "Web3D Browser (Web Based, OpenGL based, DirectX based, ......)".
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<br> Kr,
<br> CP
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<br> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.
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Am 15.09.22, 21:22 schrieb Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>>:
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Hi John
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<br> 1) You mean?
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<br> -. HTML instead of HTML Browser
<br> - concrete X3D engines instead of "X3D Engine" (why are X_ITE and X3DOM listed, standalone X3D engines are not listed by name?).
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<br> 2) One question to all:
<br> The "X3D Application" (I would rather call it "Web3D Application") is a contiguous block above "both worlds".
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<br> Are we all on the same page, what this means? Not the provider of the application, but the user of the application selects which X3D browser to use?
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<br> Kr,
<br> Christoph
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<br> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.
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Am 15.09.22, 21:09 schrieb John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>:
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More likely, a combined term would be API?
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 2:04 PM Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>> wrote:
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Hi,
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<br> One small remark about x3d web stack.
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<br> The picture uses two kinds of blocks
<br> 1. Software entities (Browser, Engine, OS, ...)
<br> 2. Standards (WebGL, OpenGL, ...)
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<br> Couldn't we write software entities instead of standards (e.g. WebGL is implemented by JavaScript engines)?
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<br> Kr
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<br> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.
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Am 15.09.22, 20:49 schrieb "Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)" <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>:
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<p class="MsoNormal">[corrected agenda follows, apologies for prior runaway email]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There will be a meeting of X3D Working Group on Friday 29 July 2022 at 09-10 pacific. Connection information and topics follow.</p>
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<li><a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zoom.us/j/148206572">https://zoom.us/j/148206572</a> Password 483805</li>
<li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information">https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information</a></li>
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<li>Agenda review</li>
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<li>Good progress in Design Printing Scanning call led to two new Mantis issues for possible comment:</li>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;">Mantis <span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;background-color: rgb(243,243,243);color: black;">1400: add Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) to recommended image formats for ImageTexture</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1400">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1400</a></p>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;">Mantis <span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;background-color: rgb(243,243,243);color: black;">1401: aligning X3D4 LineProperties with Quality Information Framework (QIF) specification</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1401">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1401</a></p>
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<li>Any further improvements to X3D-glTF comparison? Excellent progress so far, this is a valuable review.</li>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;">Features Comparison X3D 4.0 and glTF 2.0</li>
<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x0DnRtg33AuOA_aSl70L41Gq5m6TFt4t">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x0DnRtg33AuOA_aSl70L41Gq5m6TFt4t</a></li>
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<li>Reviewing Web3D Roadmap, Anita and Communications Team made some good edits today.</li>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jwY0JeYyvA8aW-e-Q06GINQkJS7b7S8jgjpJZGDjl0I/edit#slide=id.p3">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jwY0JeYyvA8aW-e-Q06GINQkJS7b7S8jgjpJZGDjl0I/edit#slide=id.p3</a></li>
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<li>Considering further refactoring of X3D Web Stack diagrams (three variations attached)</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Onward we go…</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">all the best, Don</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" style="font-family: "Courier New";">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";"><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family: "Courier New";">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p>
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