<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div>Hi Doug, Hi Don, Hi All,</div>
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<div>Thank you very much for your input.</div>
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<div>I am herewith sending the "release candidate 2" of version 0.7 of the "<strong>Suggestion of a Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software for Kind Consideration by the Community/Consortium</strong>".</div>
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<div>During a non-public discussion I received following additional comments that have not been considered yet:</div>
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<div>[...] for the MetaVerse, there will need to be aspects of multiuser included. I’m not sure if these are DIS servers or what, and there might need to be security for DIS connections.</div>
<div>For the accessible Metaverse, perhaps tactile or (ASCII) Braille interface might be used.[...]</div>
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<div> Here it is:</div>
<div><img src="cid:8d1459740eb2ec2cdbebf25b3015bb213cdae02b56f1edb45a66e30c910baea1"/></div>
<div>I am aware that some efforts will be necessary to define the meaning of "..." in the string "Web APIs (WebGL, DOM, ...)" and the meaning of "......" in the string "Operating System and DirectX, OpenGL, ......".</div>
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<div>One comment abou WebAssembly (WASM): at the link <a href="https://deref-gmx.net/mail/client/gyCoOuAmPmc/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Fdocs%2FWebAssembly%2FConcepts" target="_blank">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAssembly/Concepts</a>, I found following sentence: [...]WebAssembly is a different language from JavaScript, but it is not intended as a replacement. Instead, it is designed to complement and work alongside JavaScript, allowing web developers to take advantage of both languages' strong points[...]</div>
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<div>Kr,</div>
<div>CP/V</div>
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<div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 18. September 2022 um 17:26 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "GPU Group" <gpugroup@gmail.com><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> x3d-public@web3d.org, "Don Brutzman" <brutzman@nps.edu>, "Mehdin Masinovic" <mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com>, "Kevin" <klw71@yahoo.com>, "Markus Sonntag" <markus.sonntag@tmo.at><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Fw: [x3d-public] Re: Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software - Aw: Re: X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div>That looks close.
<div>Should the "Web APIs" be below "HTML/CSS/javascript"?</div>
<div>2 stacks in the W3C Browser box:</div>
<div>a) conventional web app</div>
<div>HTML/CSS/Javascript</div>
<div>Web APIs / webgl</div>
<div>W3C browser</div>
<div>b) WebAssembly </div>
<div>WebAssembly / WASM</div>
<div>Web APIs / webgl</div>
<div>W3C browser</div>
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<div>The W3C browser delegates webgl to host operating system native method graphics APIs, such as DirectX on windows via ANGLE PROJECT interop layer.</div>
<div>WebAssembly / WASM also runs over the web apis, something that looks like a desktop function is converted to a Web API / webgl call via interop layer.</div>
<div>-Doug</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 8:56 AM Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>Sorry, one (hopefully) last increment: v0.6</div>
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<div>Necessary corrections:</div>
<div>- Browser plugins are displayed correctly, now (imho)</div>
<div>- red: application software</div>
<div>- green: software with standardized or "well-known" APIs</div>
<div>- blue: APIs</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 18. September 2022 um 05:14 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Doug Sanden" <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>, "Don Brutzman" <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:brutzman@nps.edu'; return false;" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "Mehdin Masinovic" <<a href="mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com</a>>, "Kevin" <<a href="mailto:klw71@yahoo.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:klw71@yahoo.com'; return false;" target="_blank">klw71@yahoo.com</a>>, "Markus Sonntag" <<a href="mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at'; return false;" target="_blank">markus.sonntag@tmo.at</a>><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Fw: [x3d-public] Re: Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software - Aw: Re: X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div>The box should be green, shouldn't it?</div>
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<div>Hi Doug,</div>
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<div>I inserted another light blue box, at the left side, in order to tackle your comments.</div>
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<div>I called the box "Native Runtime Environment" (NRE), so I think I covered all the cases of JRE, Browser Plugins and WebKit/WASM, didn't I?</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 17. September 2022 um 17:45 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>><br/>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>, "Doug Sanden" <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "Mehdin Masinovic" <<a href="mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com</a>>, "Kevin" <<a href="mailto:klw71@yahoo.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:klw71@yahoo.com'; return false;" target="_blank">klw71@yahoo.com</a>>, "Markus Sonntag" <<a href="mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at'; return false;" target="_blank">markus.sonntag@tmo.at</a>><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> [x3d-public] Fw: Re: Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software - Aw: Re: X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div>Anyway, two last small improvements, before I let it go :-)</div>
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<div><img src="cid:1835127616dc204bfcc1"/></div>
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<div>Have a nice week</div>
<div>Yours Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 17. September 2022 um 16:39 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Doug Sanden" <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [x3d-public] Fw: Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software - Aw: Re: X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Hi Doug,<br/>
<br/>
Unfortunately, I am not aware of those technologies (Chromium, Electron, Webkit / WASM).</div>
<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Do you think, the picture could be easily adapted to introduce them (without naming concrete products/projects)?</div>
<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Would it be a big problem, if I asked you to do that update? I sent the .odg with the e-mail. You are free to use and modify it according to your will (let's say according to GPL license).<br/>
<br/>
Kind regards,<br/>
Christoph<br/>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.3em;">Am 17.09.22, 15:26 schrieb GPU Group <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>>:
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<div>"Machine Based" could be "Native" or "Native Application"?
<div>Stacks not shown: </div>
<div>- Chromium native plugin (desktop DX,OGL)</div>
<div>- Electron (Chromium+Node.js html+css: chromium webgl)</div>
<div>- Webkit / WASM (web browser hosted native code: webgl)</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 7:10 AM Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Trying a beautification..............still just a suggestion / draft / "brain fart".............</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 17. September 2022 um 14:14 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>><br/>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "Kevin" <<a href="mailto:klw71@yahoo.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:klw71@yahoo.com'; return false;" target="_blank">klw71@yahoo.com</a>>, "Mehdin Masinovic" <<a href="mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com</a>>, "Markus Sonntag" <<a href="mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at'; return false;" target="_blank">markus.sonntag@tmo.at</a>><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> [x3d-public] Fw: Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software - Aw: Re: X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div>Increment v0.2......</div>
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<div>All the best</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 17. September 2022 um 13:41 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>><br/>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "Kevin" <<a href="mailto:klw71@yahoo.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:klw71@yahoo.com'; return false;" target="_blank">klw71@yahoo.com</a>>, "Mehdin Masinovic" <<a href="mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">mehdin.masinovic2@gmail.com</a>>, "Markus Sonntag" <<a href="mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at'; return false;" target="_blank">markus.sonntag@tmo.at</a>><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> [x3d-public] Fw: Potential X3D Stack of APIs and Software - Aw: Re: X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Instant correction:<br/>
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Should replace "Hardware" by "Machine" (can be a virtual machine)<br/>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.3em;">Am 17.09.22, 11:21 schrieb Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>>:
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<div>Hi John, Hi Don,</div>
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<div>Sorry for my late reaction.</div>
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<div>What do you think about this?</div>
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<div><img src="http://Attachment/Y2lkOjMyMjM5M2IzNzAwOWQ4YWU3NDgyM2IxZWM4NWY0OTlhYmI5Y2JjZTQ5NzhmMDE5MzY4ODJlYTI2YjE3MmZiMTA"/></div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 16. September 2022 um 18:05 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "John Carlson" <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> "X3D Public Mailing List (<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>)" <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org'; return false;" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>>, "Don Brutzman" <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:brutzman@nps.edu'; return false;" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [x3d-public] X3D agenda 16 SEP 2022: Mantis issues, X3D-glTF comparison, Web3D Roadmap, X3D Web Stack diagrams</div>
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<div>Doug Sanden suggested we include Web Assembly (WASM). Presumably it would be compiling an X3D Browser. I am not sure if we are going to compile X3D applications to WASM, but it's a nice thought!</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:00 PM Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Hi all,<br/>
<br/>
Sorry for my "brain farts", but one silly idea.<br/>
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If X3D is ONE standard (for WebGL, OpenGL and DirectX)<br/>
and if X3D is backwards compatible with VRML worlds,<br/>
and if some future development (which need not carry the name "X3D") will be backwards compatible with X3D,<br/>
<br/>
then,<br/>
<br/>
why shouldn't we draw another contiguous block below the "X3D Application" and call this block<br/>
<br/>
"Web3D Browser (Web Based, OpenGL based, DirectX based, ......)".<br/>
<br/>
Kr,<br/>
CP<br/>
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<div>Am 15.09.22, 21:22 schrieb Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>>:</div>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Hi John<br/>
<br/>
1) You mean?<br/>
<br/>
-. HTML instead of HTML Browser<br/>
- concrete X3D engines instead of "X3D Engine" (why are X_ITE and X3DOM listed, standalone X3D engines are not listed by name?).<br/>
<br/>
2) One question to all:<br/>
The "X3D Application" (I would rather call it "Web3D Application") is a contiguous block above "both worlds".<br/>
<br/>
Are we all on the same page, what this means? Not the provider of the application, but the user of the application selects which X3D browser to use?<br/>
<br/>
Kr,<br/>
Christoph<br/>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.3em;">Am 15.09.22, 21:09 schrieb John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>:
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<div>More likely, a combined term would be API?</div>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Hi,<br/>
<br/>
One small remark about x3d web stack.<br/>
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The picture uses two kinds of blocks<br/>
1. Software entities (Browser, Engine, OS, ...)<br/>
2. Standards (WebGL, OpenGL, ...)<br/>
<br/>
Couldn't we write software entities instead of standards (e.g. WebGL is implemented by JavaScript engines)?<br/>
<br/>
Kr<br/>
<br/>
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<div>Am 15.09.22, 20:49 schrieb "Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)" <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:brutzman@nps.edu'; return false;" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[corrected agenda follows, apologies for prior runaway email]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There will be a meeting of X3D Working Group on Friday 29 July 2022 at 09-10 pacific. Connection information and topics follow.</p>
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<li><a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09" target="_blank">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zoom.us/j/148206572" target="_blank">https://zoom.us/j/148206572</a> Password 483805</li>
<li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information</a></li>
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<li>Agenda review</li>
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<li>Good progress in Design Printing Scanning call led to two new Mantis issues for possible comment:</li>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;">Mantis <span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;background-color: rgb(243,243,243);color: black;">1400: add Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) to recommended image formats for ImageTexture</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1400" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1400</a></p>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;">Mantis <span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: Verdana , sans-serif;background-color: rgb(243,243,243);color: black;">1401: aligning X3D4 LineProperties with Quality Information Framework (QIF) specification</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1401" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1401</a></p>
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<li>Any further improvements to X3D-glTF comparison? Excellent progress so far, this is a valuable review.</li>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;">Features Comparison X3D 4.0 and glTF 2.0</li>
<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x0DnRtg33AuOA_aSl70L41Gq5m6TFt4t" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x0DnRtg33AuOA_aSl70L41Gq5m6TFt4t</a></li>
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<li>Reviewing Web3D Roadmap, Anita and Communications Team made some good edits today.</li>
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<li style="margin-left: 0.0in;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jwY0JeYyvA8aW-e-Q06GINQkJS7b7S8jgjpJZGDjl0I/edit#slide=id.p3" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jwY0JeYyvA8aW-e-Q06GINQkJS7b7S8jgjpJZGDjl0I/edit#slide=id.p3</a></li>
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<li>Considering further refactoring of X3D Web Stack diagrams (three variations attached)</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Onward we go…</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">all the best, Don</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:brutzman@nps.edu'; return false;" style="font-family: "Courier New";" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";"><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family: "Courier New";" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p>
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