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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>create a way to to animate a LOA4 humanoid with standard motions.</li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Specifications/HAnim1SpecificationLOA3AnimationIndex.html">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Specifications/HAnim1SpecificationLOA3AnimationIndex.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi John,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>we know how to do that, anyone have an loa4 skeleton? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Those anims should work just fine, just need good loa4 and joint names changed,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 3, 2022 5:44 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joseph D Williams</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] key frames animation; how’s John?</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or: create a way to to animate a LOA4 humanoid with standard motions.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 5:58 PM Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>OK, here is some fun for some artificialized intelligence for helping anyone create a realistic skeleton-driven humanoid using ‘standard’ animations. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>This time start with a skin of about 1551 or up to maybe 20001 or so points, maybe created by sampling of scans or photographs, coordinates drawn in humanoid (realistic) scale, with points at the ‘standard surface body and facial feature points, then fit this with the loa4 skeleton, do some simple animations to learn how to bind and weight skin points to appropriate skeleton joints, create a single texture from a sampling of photographs and map it to the skin, then demonstrate the character by performing a set of standard animations designed to be usable with the loa4 skeleton, with these steps accomplished probably in no particular order for any particular character. Alternatively, start with the skeleton and build the skin around it, then do the bindings.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>We have a couple of examples this character assembler can use to learn some things and there must be opportunity for a user to tune the thing and add accessories. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>Navigation is moving the active view in the parent space coordinate system using translation, orientation and standard camera focal controls. A keyframe is data for a specific control at a specific time relative to parent time coordinate system. Animation is accomplished by progressively rendering one or a synchronized group of keyframes in sequence over some time period. If the renderer is ready to create the next frame and it is less than the exact time of the next keyframe then the x3d player will create a keyframe by interpolating control data points using the previous and next keyframe. If the current time is exactly the same as the specified key time, then no interpolation takes place and the data is used directly. This makes it realtime anytime so you are not limited to a fixed frame rate or specific key time as found in typical video, meaning you can show only the keyframes or examine computed data at everytime between previous and next. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><ul type=disc><li class=m-8169281577919340410msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='color:black'>my orbitals/rhodonea</span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>Where are those things now?</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><ul type=disc><li class=m-8169281577919340410msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:black'>leaving time research </span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>are you sure that is possible?</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>Joe</p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 7:44 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[x3d-public] key frames animation; how’s John?</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>Is A. I. Whisperer’s animation generator method preferred for creating key frames?</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'><a href="https://youtu.be/WS-cnyTd9Dw" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/WS-cnyTd9Dw</a></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>I’ve just watched some of the video, but I’m trying to think of a similar way of doing this with a different type of Navigator type.</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>If anyone wants to bake up some navigations/keyframes for my orbitals/rhodonea, it would be most appreciated.</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>=========</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>Personal stuff below </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>I don’t know if I’ve told you guys my CTS/RSI is improving. Praise be to The Healer. Now I’m wondering what to do with this gift? I’m waiting for a door to open at this point. I’ve been successfully spending 6+ hours on the iPhone during the day.</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>Note: I’m working on my “Pathological Demand Avoidance” now. I’m beginning to understand that 1) I’m not lazy 2) I’m not unmotivated. My wife calls it “The Man Avoidance.” lol </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>I’m leaving time research. I can DM anyone interested my results.</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'> </span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='color:black'>John</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>