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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>I am thinking that it might say … HAnimSegment node *and its children* provide// a visual representation …</li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node. </span>Segment is child of a Joint. A Joint can parent multiple Segments. Segment can contain child geometry as well as child Site(s) containing sensors, surface feature names and locations, geometries, Viewpoint(s), and, unless it is the terminating Segment, at least one child Joint. A Segment, and its child content are animated by rotation of its parent joint and control of that joint’s parent structures. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, </p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node.<br clear=all><br clear=all>Recommend further detail. Suggested prose:<br clear=all><br clear=all>* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node, providing a visual representation of the skeleton segment. Parent/child translation and rotation relationships are defined between parent/child HAnimSegment nodes.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 4, 2022 1:16 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)</a>; <a href="mailto:h-anim@web3d.org">h-anim@web3d.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] X3D4 prose suggestions for HAnim nodesHAnimSegment and</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am thinking that it might say … HAnimSegment node *and its children* provide// a visual representation …</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’m unsure of the grammar.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 1:37 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>While reviewing various X3D Tooltip descriptions, found a lack of clarity and potential for editorial improvement in X3D4 Architecture specification. This additional prose might help clear up recurring mystery that sometimes occurs with author understanding of how X3D implements two Humanoid Animation (HAnim) nodes.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><ul type=disc><li class=m-2784892076236777707msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>Mantis 1402: Insufficient description for HAnimSegment</li><li class=m-2784892076236777707msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1402" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1402</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=0 width=1440 style='width:15.0in;background:white'><tr><td colspan=2 style='background:#F3F3F3;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Mantis 1402: Insufficient description for HAnimSegment</span></p></td><td style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in' width=547><p class='MsoNormal'> </td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='background:#C8C8E8;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Description</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td colspan=2 style='background:#EBEBEB;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt;border-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Node description for HAnimSegment is exceedingly terse and insufficient to describe purpose.<br clear=all><br clear=all>* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node.<br clear=all><br clear=all>Recommend further detail. Suggested prose:<br clear=all><br clear=all>* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node, providing a visual representation of the skeleton segment. Parent/child translation and rotation relationships are defined between parent/child HAnimSegment nodes.<br clear=all></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='background:#C8C8E8;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Additional Information</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td colspan=2 style='background:#F3F3F3;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt;border-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>References:<br clear=all><br clear=all>* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimSegment" target="_blank"><span style='color:royalblue'>https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimSegment</span></a><br clear=all><br clear=all>* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Segment" target="_blank"><span style='color:royalblue'>https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Segment</span></a></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width=263 style='width:197.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td><td width=625 style='width:468.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td><td width=553 style='width:414.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=m-2784892076236777707msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Mantis 1403: Insufficient description for HAnimJoint</li><li class=m-2784892076236777707msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1403" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1403</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=0 width=1440 style='width:15.0in;background:white'><tr><td colspan=2 style='background:#F3F3F3;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Mantis 1403: Insufficient description for HAnimJoint</span></p></td><td style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in' width=528><p class='MsoNormal'> </td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='background:#C8C8E8;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Description</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td colspan=2 style='background:#EBEBEB;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt;border-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Node description for HAnimJoint is exceedingly terse and insufficient to describe purpose.<br clear=all><br clear=all>* Each joint in the body is represented by an HAnimJoint node, which is used to define the relationship of each body segment to its immediate parent.<br clear=all><br clear=all>Recommend further detail. Suggested prose addition:<br clear=all><br clear=all>* The child HAnimSegment node provides a visual representation of the skeleton segment.<br clear=all><br clear=all></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='background:#C8C8E8;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Additional Information</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td colspan=2 style='background:#F3F3F3;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt;border-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>References:<br clear=all><br clear=all>* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimJoint" target="_blank"><span style='color:royalblue'>https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimJoint</span></a><br clear=all><br clear=all>* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Joint" target="_blank"><span style='color:royalblue'>https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Joint</span></a></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width=373 style='width:279.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td><td width=533 style='width:399.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td><td width=534 style='width:400.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All comments on this suggest improvement to editorial phrasing are welcome. Please note that no functional changes are involved.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Next. As previously announced, we will be going over all Web3D comments on the current ISO ballot during this week’s X3D Working Group meeting, Friday October 7, 09-1000 pacific. Only a handful are outstanding and we expect to resolve them all as either (a) ballot submission, or (b) defer to X3D4.1. Participation welcome.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have fun with X3D clarity! 8)</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>