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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#202122;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'>In SignWriting, a combination of iconic symbols for </span><span style='color:windowtext'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handshape" title=Handshape><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#3366CC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>handshapes</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'>, </span><span style='color:windowtext'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientation_(sign_language)" title="Orientation (sign language)"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#3366CC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>orientation</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'>, </span><span style='color:windowtext'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_(sign_language)" title="Location (sign language)"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#3366CC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>body locations</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'>, </span><span style='color:windowtext'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expression_(sign_language)" title="Expression (sign language)"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#3366CC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>facial expressions</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'>, contacts, and </span><span style='color:windowtext'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_(sign_language)" title="Movement (sign language)"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#3366CC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>movement</span></a></span><sup id="cite_ref-ThiessenGrammar_9-0"><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting#cite_note-ThiessenGrammar-9"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#3366CC;vertical-align:baseline'>[9]</span></a><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting#cite_note-EversonUnicode-10"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#3366CC;vertical-align:baseline'>[10]</span></a></span></sup><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'> are used to represent words in </span><span style='color:windowtext'><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_language" title="Sign language"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#3366CC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>sign language</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'>. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#202122;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='color:windowtext'>we create a mapping between X3D/BVH, DanceWriting/MovementWriting</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>This would need a ‘standard’ skeleton, some ‘standard’ skin, and sets of ‘standard’ poses to show each information item. This is possible, for instance using a ’standard’ hanim hand starting with its position in the ‘standard’ pose and encoding the translation of the hand and the rotation of each joint needed to show the detail. Of course this could be used to encode poses for the complete character. A hard part is managing the transition as the pose changes for the next item. Since there is already a list of poses, then it only remains to draft a list ‘standard’ skeleton poses for each item. The facial animation is very important in this and maybe hanim working group is doing some work in this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>Joe<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:38 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:SW-L@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)</a>; <a href="mailto:semantics-public@web3d.org">X3D Semantic Web Working Group</a>; <a href="mailto:h-anim@web3d.org">h-anim@web3d.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] X3D4 Working Group agenda,20 OCT 2022: discuss possible Avatar strategy</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I suggest we create a mapping between X3D/BVH, DanceWriting/MovementWriting and especially SignWriting, with DanceWriting/MovementWriting and SignWriting carrying the semantics, and X3D/BVH carrying the physics/mathematics.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting</a></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Movement_Writing_Alphabet">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Movement_Writing_Alphabet</a></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe there are current developments on this, as  reported on SW-L.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe that this, and translation to and/or supplementing with Protactile for the deafblind will go a long way towards making the Metaverse more accessible.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Note that Protactile is a full-duplex, two-way language, so that full-duplex communication is critical to success.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Plain ol’ video generation isn’t going to solve this!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John </p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:21 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi John.  Good ideas, thanks for sharing them.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Once again, it appears as if all the capabilities necessary to accomplish that are defined in X3D4 with immense sets of BVH captures available out there.  Good hunting, sir.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><ul type=disc><li class=m2451260297482557735msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>X3D4 Architecture, 26.3.4 HAnimMotion</li><li class=m2451260297482557735msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimMotion" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimMotion</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><ul type=disc><li class=m2451260297482557735msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'>HAnim 2.0 Part 2:  Humanoid animation (HAnim) motion data animation, 4 Concepts</li><li class=m2451260297482557735msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-2/V2.0/MotionDataAnimation/Concepts.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-2/V2.0/MotionDataAnimation/Concepts.html</a></li></ul></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br        <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA    +1.831.656.2149</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:h-anim@web3d.org" target="_blank">h-anim@web3d.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] X3D4 Working Group agenda, 20 OCT 2022: discuss possible Avatar strategy</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hmm.  I suggest extending the BVH to include multifigure collaborative motions like dancing (think Virginia Reel) and sports.  That is, some kind of composed BVH with multiple avatars.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This may already be done.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:46 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>X3D Working Group meets weekly for continued advancement of the X3D4 Specifications.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=m2451260297482557735m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>        </span>Meeting time 09-1000 pacific, each Friday</p><p class=m2451260297482557735m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>        </span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fus02web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F81634670698%3Fpwd%3Da1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MW4v64xMIXK24IDZdceGKtDDqgWP60YwubSLqOfSCFw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09</a> </p><p class=m2451260297482557735m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>        </span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fj%2F148206572&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3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style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F13yAhoU9h7Buy5fUjSpPoOHYVJ6dgJDYulDS9Ze8na4M%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.p&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BCjRn2m6AHyoKAepLl9oYn%2BLOjWDgTmTsCCzbRwIVbw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13yAhoU9h7Buy5fUjSpPoOHYVJ6dgJDYulDS9Ze8na4M/edit#slide=id.p</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Membership has value!</p><ul type=disc><li class=m2451260297482557735m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'>Join the Web3D Consortium</li><li class=m2451260297482557735m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'>The Web3D Consortium is a non-profit group open to industry, academic, government and individual members.</li><li class=m2451260297482557735m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/join" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/join</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have fun with X3D, Human Animation and Avatars!  8)</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br        <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA    +1.831.656.2149</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>