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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>You can find example BVH-to-X3D conversion results at<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'><i>X3D Example Archives: </i>Humanoid Animation, Motion Animation<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>Motion Capture (MOCAP) examples using Humanoid Animation (HAnim) models illustrates conversion from BioVision Hierarchy (BVH) files for Character animation (such as 1.bvh).<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/MotionAnimation<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/MotionAnimation/1.bvh<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/MotionAnimation/1.bvh.txt<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Additional good examples welcome, we can add them to the HAnim Examples archive. Got one?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I just checked the BVH converter in rejuvenated X3D-Edit and it seems to still work fine. 8)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>Menu item: X3D-Edit<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>https://sourceforge.net/projects/x3d/files<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/MotionAnimation/X3D-EditBvhImport.png<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adapting the X3D-Edit converter source to be part of our X3DJSONLD X3DJSAIL X3DPSAIL libraries seems like an interesting utility function to add someday.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>https://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/tools/X3dEdit4.0/X3dEditModuleSuite/X3dSourceFilePalette/src/org/web3d/x3d/actions/conversions/BvhToX3dConversionAction.java<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Have fun with X3D and BVH! 8)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 20, 2022 11:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org) <x3d-public@web3d.org>; h-anim@web3d.org; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [x3d-public] X3D4 Working Group agenda, 20 OCT 2022: discuss possible Avatar strategy<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi John. Good ideas, thanks for sharing them.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Once again, it appears as if all the capabilities necessary to accomplish that are defined in X3D4 with immense sets of BVH captures available out there. Good hunting, sir.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>X3D4 Architecture, 26.3.4 HAnimMotion<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimMotion<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>HAnim 2.0 Part 2: Humanoid animation (HAnim) motion data animation, 4 Concepts<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-2/V2.0/MotionDataAnimation/Concepts.html<o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:h-anim@web3d.org">h-anim@web3d.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] X3D4 Working Group agenda, 20 OCT 2022: discuss possible Avatar strategy<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hmm. I suggest extending the BVH to include multifigure collaborative motions like dancing (think Virginia Reel) and sports. That is, some kind of composed BVH with multiple avatars.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This may already be done.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:46 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>X3D Working Group meets weekly for continued advancement of the X3D4 Specifications.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Meeting time 09-1000 pacific, each Friday<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fus02web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F81634670698%3Fpwd%3Da1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MW4v64xMIXK24IDZdceGKtDDqgWP60YwubSLqOfSCFw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fj%2F148206572&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ioWhHDclKh8aalrR84sI08Iw9SELPg68b7Xo6GMEtFA%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://zoom.us/j/148206572</a> Password 483805 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information</a><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here is a “new” proposed strategy, trying to say crisply the many essential ideas that are well known already by active participants in the X3D community.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i>(draft)</i> Avatar Strategy: Open, Interoperable, Personal, Secure<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No standardized definition for “avatars” is provided in X3D4, but…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Many alternatives are possible, the “X” in “X3D” is Extensible. Vive la difference!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>X3D includes multiple levels of detail (LOD) if progressive avatar fidelity desired, this is essential for hugely scalable worlds.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Most powerful Web3D example design to date: Silhouette Avatars by IVN, <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fivn.net%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CtDmvmFFwBAvZim267Kyo9joM1Ey7g%2BuVb%2F9TgeMhy8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://ivn.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Metadata for identity, secure digital signature and even encryption is possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Composing 3D scans and motion-capture (mocap) data for full avatar realism remains really interesting! Interesting progress continues on this challenge.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>X3D Working Group intends to demonstrate whatever avatar definitions are agreed upon by Metaverse Standards Forum. We expect to show full matching Implementation and Evaluation using X3D, learning further what avatar designs work well.<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Let’s discuss please. All inputs and discussion welcome.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Corresponding Web3D member-only draft slideset available at<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo7'>Representing Metaverse Humans with Open Standards<o:p></o:p></li><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo7'>Humanoid Animation (HAnim) and X3D4 ISO Specification Support<o:p></o:p></li><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo7'>Web3D Consortium Communications Team<o:p></o:p></li><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo7'><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F13yAhoU9h7Buy5fUjSpPoOHYVJ6dgJDYulDS9Ze8na4M%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.p&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cd934066c06b54d9e5f2908dab2c300ef%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638018848839423330%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BCjRn2m6AHyoKAepLl9oYn%2BLOjWDgTmTsCCzbRwIVbw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13yAhoU9h7Buy5fUjSpPoOHYVJ6dgJDYulDS9Ze8na4M/edit#slide=id.p</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Membership has value!<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10'>Join the Web3D Consortium<o:p></o:p></li><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10'>The Web3D Consortium is a non-profit group open to industry, academic, government and individual members.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=m7508285180008331711msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/join" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/join</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have fun with X3D, Human Animation and Avatars! 8)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>