<div dir="auto">More thoughts. X3DJSAIL already provides excellent facilities for converting XML to scenegraph (X3D and HTML).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We could add “3D malls” of items </div><div dir="auto">in the X3D examples folders instead of just providing thumbnail images.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">An idea would be to complement existing HTML with SVG and more X3D. I’m imagining some kind of map of the examples in SVG with annotations where each example is.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We could create example metaverse or metaverses for each collection in the x3d example archive.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In other words, let’s bring our examples into a metaverse.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> Note: I recommend 1 metaverse per collection folder.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Either Celestial, Geospatial, or Shopping would be ok.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:52 AM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">I’ve had a few more thoughts on this:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create a “3D Mall” view for each level. Look for a 3D File Explorer view.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create an “Apollonean Gasket” view—fractal circles. Not unlike JSON-LD view from some time ago. Provide zooming like VIPR programming language.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create a geospatial view (Patrick Cozzi, Clement Igonet), Cesium.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create a celestial view.(Sanden)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create a forest/net/graph view, based on existing: <a href="https://coderextreme.net/x3dschema/" target="_blank">https://coderextreme.net/x3dschema/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create a Smalltalk class browser view.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do something with web browser view. Maybe WebVOWL.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Provide an interface common to all views and an interface common to all models and an interface common to all controllers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create or find file system model.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create or find modelling system model.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create or find planning system model.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Create or find programming language model. Either Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) or intermediate representation (IR) from compilers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do something with DOM. Perhaps use DOM as frontend to scenegraph views. As far as we can, use DOM as AST or IR.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m hoping Christoph Valentin might contribute.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know there’s a lot of work so perhaps we can work out mappings from DOM (model) to scenegraph (view?) (Don is probably most qualified).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would l Iike to work on the model side of things and maybe a bit of view stuff.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Specifically, I’d like to create a DOM to either render 3d models in SysML or other programming language. (I know there are some out there for UML)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If the semantics folks want to add ideas here, cool.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But first, I’d like to lay out some interfaces for model,view,controller of top-most triple.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Perhaps someone can recommend Croquet?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Christoph?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 10:38 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Has anyone created 3D online structures from <div dir="auto"><a href="https://dmoz-odp.org/" target="_blank">https://dmoz-odp.org/</a> (Open Directory?)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It should be possible with current WWW technology. We’re not trying to displace the WWW.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Could we collect geospatial and/or temporal data and present it as well?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Can we come up with a better presentation than earth or maps? Something more exotic?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We were thinking of a forest of trees, perhaps swaying until the mouse gets near.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What Shapes or geometry might people suggest?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m imagining someone did this 25 years ago?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m going to look for an archive of data rather than scraping.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div>
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