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umeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">vc7 (LOA4), vc4 (LOA2--have only checked hierarchy diagram, may be correct in schema)</span></p><br></td><td style="border-width:1pt;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">vt1</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">LOA2 hierarchy diagram has a different sibling, but the right parent for the latter two. Since I am not based on schema, schematron or X3DUOM, I don't have to accommodate this.</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am doing LOA4.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>LOA4 and LOA2 pictures included, highlighting areas where there was confusion.</div><div><br></div><div>Please read back your understanding.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 12:09 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<div>Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. </div>
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<div>Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:</div>
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<li><span>suspect joint or segment name, </span></li><li><span>the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and </span></li><li><span>the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.<br>
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<div>If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together.  Onward…</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</font>
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<p>The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong.
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<p>The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4.
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<li style="margin-left:0in">Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!</li></ul>
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<p>No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.</p>
<p>The diagrams are correct. </p>
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<p style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">
Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled</p>
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vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!</p>
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<p>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please confirm.</p>
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<p>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please confirm. </p>
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