<div><div dir="auto">I could not find a problem with Schema for the parent/child relationships in other LOAs besides LOA4. Someone who isn’t on their phone should take a look.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m way too stressed out right now, hopefully this will calm down a bit.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What i can do is run the other standards based hierarchies, …LOA3 through the schematron when i get a chance, to verify any other problems with schematron.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I understand that there may be diagnostics for other LOAs before LOA4.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m beginning to understand how difficult standards development is.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John </div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 2:16 PM Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just more comment where the three * items are messages from schema processing.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> ‘Correct’ means according to loa3 and loa4 diagrams. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac <u></u><u></u></li></ul><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p>The schema shows sacro as parent to vl5 and l_ and r_hips. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Correct is root parents sacro and vl5; sacro parents l_ and r_hips.<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7<u></u><u></u></li><li>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 <u></u><u></u></li></ul><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p>The schema shows vc7 as parent to vc6 and r_ and l_sterno. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Correct is vt1 parents vc7 and r_ and l_sterno. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Joe<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal">suspect joint or segment name, <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.<u></u><u></u></li></ul></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_6799063646019671420m_-736896321434889989ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal">If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together. Onward…<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">v/r Don<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" src="cid:185db23a92c76882ca01" style="width:694px;max-width:100%"><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div id="m_6799063646019671420m_-736896321434889989divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div style="border:solid #004679 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:#004679"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:yellow">NPS WARNING: *external sender* verify before acting.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p>Hi, </p><p>The expected ones are not correct. Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. </p><p>The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. </p><p> </p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li style="margin-left:0in">Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<u></u><u></u></li></ul><p> </p><p>No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.</p><p>The diagrams are correct. </p><p>Joe</p><p> </p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled</p></div><p> </p><div><div><div><p> </p></div><p> </p><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p><br>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac. Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm.</p></div><div><p>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm. </p></div><div><p> </p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p> </p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p></div></div></div><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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