<div><div dir="auto">Don, I’m hoping you can add “JSON for SAI—X3DJSONLS.*” to the schedule for the 27th. I need to figure out if there’s a niche for JSON in browsers with SAI and no DOM. In particular, optional scene validation with SAI generated from X3DUOM would be a great addition if not already provided when JSON is loaded into the scene with SAI. One thing i faced with C++ was I wasn’t aware of any SAI implementations; is now a good time to ask? I was told to make a standalone app.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I had not considered replacing the JavaScript “document” and associated DOM methods with SAI methods in X3DJSONLD.* before. I could use some help with that, and start building X3DJSONLS.* for browsers without DOM (Xj3D?)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m hoping scene validation will be supported in all SAI standards. I realize some “x3d browsers” do not support reasonable SAI standard interfaces—that’s what X3DJSONLD is for. For those without DOM, either DOM can be added, or X3DJSONLS can be used.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe I’ll get a donkey head to wear to meetings. ;) I’m imagining the one from the “Lambchop” show would be ideal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m hoping that SAI provides at a minimum, createNode, addChild and setAttribute or the equivalent (array indexing instead of addChild). I’m also recalling that JavaScript can use [] instead of setAttribute. I guess i may only need the createNode, route interfaces and proto creation in JavaScript SAI. We can keep the property name prefixes in JSON for JavaScript mentioned in another message, i was confused looking at an app which used “.” for property access. Perhaps a hash table, proxy, or associative array would be good for other languages.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I do still think that X3DJSONLD offers some benefits for loading “HTML JSON” and “SVG JSON”. Indeed, I need to expand the XML namespaces i support on my web app. X3DJSONLD was never really considered an X3D only app, instead, I wanted to provide support for a wide variety of JSON to DOM conversions.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So now I’ll start pursuing something more crafted for SAI.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I bet you got kind of surprised when i ported X3JSONLD.java to X3DJSAIL. Apologies!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A “green light,” “yellow light” or “red light” would be great. I’ll probably need help designing internal and external interface names.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have posted X3DJSONLD.java which can be copied to X3DJSONLS.java on the <a href="http://sourceforge.net" target="_blank">sourceforge.net</a> x3d project as a starting point for the JSON to SAI project to give you optimal delivery options. x3djsonld.py isn’t done yet, and already relies heavily on x3d.py (no DOM).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here is code:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/java/src/net/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD.java">https://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/java/src/net/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD.java</a></div><br></div><div dir="auto">We can discuss whether X3DJSONLS or X3DJSONLD should be delivered in X3DJSAIL or not. Java supports DOM natively, and X3DJSAIL offers both DOM and SAI. Obviously we have to wash and repeat for each language.</div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:25 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<p class="MsoNormal">First we will briefly review updates to the following important status resource, discussing next steps.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Updated.</span></i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" target="_blank">X3D Node Inventory Comparison</a> (<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" target="_blank">.pdf</a>)
shows node-by-node implementation coverage of the X3D Abstract Specification: validation using X3D Schema, X3D DOCTYPE, and X3D Schematron; X3D Tooltips and VRML97 node sets; plus selected open-source implementations: FreeWrl, X3DOM, X_ITE, view3dscene (Castle
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span>
<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">
brutzman@nps.edu</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 13, 2023 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>)
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<b>Cc:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> X3D Working Group minutes 13 JAN 2023: refined goals, ISO specification updates, X3D4 implementation upgrade guidelines?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy Friday 13<sup>th</sup> everyone! (bwa ha ha…)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Today we held our regular weekly meeting of X3D Working Group, Friday 13 January 2023 at 09-10 pacific. Connection information and topics follow.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li><a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09" target="_blank">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81634670698?pwd=a1VPeU5tN01rc21Oa3hScUlHK0Rxdz09</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attendees: Anita Havele, Nicholas Polys, Dick Puk, Doug Sanden, Don Brutzman.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Goal statement review</b>. Our primary activities for X3D Working Group in 2023 are focused on broad and correct deployment. Refined:<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<li style="margin-left:0.25in">Encourage consistent rendering, interaction and usage for the many tremendous capabilities in X3D4.<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0.25in">Update ISO specifications and implementations for multiple programming languages and file encodings to match X3D4.<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The dozen corresponding standards to receive these updates are illustrated as follows:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">X3D Graphics Standards Relationships<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://web3d.org/specifications/X3dGraphicsStandardsRelationships.png" target="_blank">https://web3d.org/specifications/X3dGraphicsStandardsRelationships.png</a><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<b>Milestone: X3D4 Architecture Finalization</b>. <u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.5pt">Last Tuesday we held a totally successful ISO Editors meeting for X3D4 Architecture Draft International Specification (DIS). ISO review and approval deliberations continue.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.5pt">Today we reviewed progress, changes and next steps following. Almost finally, finally done locking in all details…<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">X3D4: Extensible 3D (X3D) Part 1: Architecture and base components, ISO/IEC 19775-1:2022<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/Architecture.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/Architecture.html</a><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">Mantis Issue Tracker<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php</a><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mantis issues are being updated to track all of the agreed-upon ISO changes correctly.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Given the formally approved list of X3D4 Architecture changes, we can finally proceed with document editing. Next step is to apply CSS-markup highlighted changes to the current DIS source for group review.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Proposed github location for that draft:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">Web3D Consortium GitHub Archive
<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://github.com/Web3dConsortium" target="_blank">https://github.com/Web3dConsortium</a><u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC19775/ISO-IEC19775-1/ISO-IEC19775-1v4.0/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS" target="_blank">https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC19775/ISO-IEC19775-1/ISO-IEC19775-1v4.0/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS</a><u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">ISO-IEC19775-1v4-ProposedIS will be new directory location, eventual rename to “IS” once accepted by ISO<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">X3D schema, DTD, X3DUOM, X3DJSAIL updates in progress, so far so good. Have applied most validation-related changes. Initial recapitalization/dehyphenization of Web Audio-related enumerations to follow.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Web3D Review of C, C++, C# draft standards for X3D 3.3.</b> <u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.5pt">Deadline is imminent, we intend to review all comments next week. Based on that review, X3D Working Group will make a recommendation to Web3D Board of Directors regarding Consortium and community inputs on specification
readiness.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Preparing for Outreach</b>.<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.5pt">We discussed how to communicate the soon-to-happen approval of X3D 4.0 by ISO, including possible testimonials by members, implementers, authors, users, Standards Development Organization (SDO) partners, et al.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.5pt"><i>All testimonial statements are welcome.</i> Web3D Consortium Executive Director Anita Havele to participate.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>X3D Node Inventory Comparison</b>.<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.5pt">We took another look at this spreadsheet, let’s prepare to regularly update. Multiple other assets can also be used by implementers to support upgrading to X3D4.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">X3D Specifications: Schema and DOCTYPE Validation<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications</a><u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">These assets are commonly used for XML validation of X3D scenes, and in-depth documentation is also provided here.<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">X3D Node Inventory Comparison (.pdf) shows node-by-node implementation coverage of the X3D Abstract Specification: validation using X3D Schema, X3D DOCTYPE, and X3D Schematron; X3D
Tooltips and VRML97 node sets; plus selected open-source implementations: FreeWrl, X3DOM, X_ITE, view3dscene (Castle Game Engine), X3D-Edit, Xj3D.<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xslx" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xslx</a> (master in version control)<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf</a><u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">This will be updated to X3D 4.0 latest, with changes highlighted in yellow<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">X3D Tooltips 4.0 also highlights all changes in yellow<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/tooltips/X3dTooltips.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/tooltips/X3dTooltips.html</a><u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">For example, Anchor tooltips:<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/tooltips/X3dTooltips.html#Anchor" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/tooltips/X3dTooltips.html#Anchor</a><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">The X3D4 Architecture specification itself also reveals specific changes to nodes and fields, from versions 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 and 4.0:<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">X3D4 Architecture, Annex Z, Version Content<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/versionContent.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/versionContent.html</a><u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">For example, looking at Anchor node, you can see in rightmost column that v4.0 adds load, bboxDisplay, autoRefreshTimeLimit etc.<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Suggested: should we create an X3D4 Migration Guide to help implementers? Seems like an excellent idea, also “rings true” with our initial goal statements today.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Volunteers please? </i>Creating some form of X3D4 Migration Guide checklist to assist implementers might be quite useful. Also an excellent professional opportunity for experts and consultants to demonstrate (and upgrade) their expertise.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good discussions on download statistics (X3D-Edit, FreeWrl) and a variety of other topics... we’re having fun now!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As ever, many thanks for the work of many contributors. Deep breath… wow.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No Web3D member-only information is included in these minutes… but please do note: several valuable items documented here have Web3D member-only access.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Consortium membership has value! <i>Please consider joining</i>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have fun with X3D4! 8)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p>
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