<div dir="auto">Next steps.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John </div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">John Carlson</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:17 PM<br>Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<br>To: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="auto"> Next steps for LOA4 HAnim model: try moving around the output of found* measurements in the *sed.sh scripts </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regenerate skeleton one more time and display for proofing skeleton in view3dscene, collect and fix issues.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Figure out the measurements left to populate.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Report missing measurements. See if output model changed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Look at Joe file to see how skin is done (attach to sites?)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Probably I’ll begin work in a couple of hours.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At some point, figure out transformations that are excessive and try to recompute measurements below the transforms, take out transforms that have been nullified.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 9:02 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful. We definitely have had some mixed signals here.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:<u></u><u></u></p><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<u></u><u></u></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly – X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">-- <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac <u></u><u></u></li><li>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7<u></u><u></u></li><li>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 <u></u><u></u></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is correct according to the diagram. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Joe<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal">suspect joint or segment name, <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.<u></u><u></u></li></ul></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_1661986244189613017m_-3283242864835580834ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal">If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together. Onward…<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">v/r Don<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" src="cid:185f6c1b383ad7999131" style="width:694px;max-width:100%"><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72"><div><div><div id="m_1661986244189613017m_-3283242864835580834divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div style="border:1pt solid rgb(0,70,121);padding:2pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12pt;background-color:rgb(0,70,121)"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:yellow">NPS WARNING: *external sender* verify before acting.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p>Hi, <u></u><u></u></p><p>The expected ones are not correct. Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. <u></u><u></u></p><p>The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. <u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li style="margin-left:0in">Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<u></u><u></u></li></ul><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p>No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p>The diagrams are correct. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Joe<u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div><p> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p> <u></u><u></u></p></div><p> <u></u><u></u></p><div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div><div><p><br>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac. Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p> <u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div><div><p> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p style="margin-left:4.8pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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