<div dir="auto">I would like to shelve this issue now, since the skeleton is a tree. I will continue to advocate for multiple “parents” with DEF/USE, unless this has been deprecated from HAnimHumanoid entirely. The HAnim standard says the skeleton is a tree. That is enough. The bones and joints form a tree, or better, the segments and joints form a tree. There is no use for USE with the HAnim skeleton nodes that I know of, but within HAnimHumanoid there is: joints field, for example. There is also an opportunity for USE with geometry.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Apologies for any confusion, that was pretty vivid on my part, and actually looking at the standard for a while cleared things up.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank goodness there’s a standard!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Let me know if there are changes for X3D4.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 12:09 AM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Actually I haven’t checked my code for “several parent” issues yet. I have no idea what several parents would look like, except for 3 USE/1 DEF nodes with same name field value. I’m pretty sure this only applies to LOA4—we don’t have a lot of LOA4 examples of yet.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If this is not yet included in your tools, that would be helpful to check.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I hope we haven’t lost this info!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It’s my recollection that this occurred in either the hands or feet.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I made a couple of changes from previous mail, below, sorry for confusion.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 11:45 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">It’s also useful to recall that a couple of parts of the skeleton have multiple parents (with the root as topmost parent), which I have yet to include, FYI. More details would be welcome!</div></blockquote></div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 3:19 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal">As part of followup actions from yesterday’s three specific parent-child relationship corrections, am now autogenerating the following table using X3DUOM. It should match the international-standard hand-generated HAnim2 specification for LOA-4 Hierarchy.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Spot check:<u></u><u></u></p><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<u></u><u></u></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Am hoping that someone can check that <i>everything</i> matches correctly -- hey, this should match your body too! Any remaining parent-child relationship errors that are similar to yesterday’s errors should stand out. All corrections are most welcome.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is another great confirmation test to continue improving our confidence when producing and diagnosing the correctness of HAnim models. The autogeneration stylesheet and these results are all checked into version control, and they are now part of our production chain for X3D4 validation. I will continue work on various other autogenerated diagnostics (X3D Schematron, X3D Validator, X3D-Edit etc.) and report when everything is ready.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks again to Joe and John for dogged persistence tracking down the errors in the first place. Essential work.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Have fun with HAnim and X3D! 8)<u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-style:none none solid;border-bottom-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1pt;border-bottom-color:windowtext"><p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New"">HAnim2 LOA4 Hierarchy from X3DUOM<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/HAnimLOA4HierarchyTable.txt" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/HAnimLOA4HierarchyTable.txt</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Authoritative reference: HAnim version 2, Part 1: Humanoid animation (HAnim) architecture,<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> clause 4 Concepts, section 4.9.6.4 LOA</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‑</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New"">4 hierarchy<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/concepts.html#Hierarchy4" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/concepts.html#Hierarchy4</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> clause 4 Concepts, Figure 4.7 — LOA</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‑</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New"">4 joints<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/concepts.html#f-LOA4Joints" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/concepts.html#f-LOA4Joints</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New"">humanoid_root : sacrum<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> sacroiliac : pelvis<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_hip : l_thigh<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_knee : l_calf<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_talocrural : l_talus<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_talocalcaneonavicular : l_navicular<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_cuneonavicular_1 : l_cuneiform_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_tarsometatarsal_1 : l_metatarsal_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_metatarsophalangeal_1 : l_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_tarsal_interphalangeal_1 : l_tarsal_distal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_cuneonavicular_2 : l_cuneiform_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_tarsometatarsal_2 : l_metatarsal_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_metatarsophalangeal_2 : l_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_2 : l_tarsal_middle_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | | l_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_2 : l_tarsal_distal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_cuneonavicular_3 : l_cuneiform_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_tarsometatarsal_3 : l_metatarsal_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_metatarsophalangeal_3 : l_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_3 : l_tarsal_middle_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_3 : l_tarsal_distal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_calcaneocuboid : l_calcaneus<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_transversetarsal : l_cuboid<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_tarsometatarsal_4 : l_metatarsal_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_metatarsophalangeal_4 : l_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_4 : l_tarsal_middle_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | l_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_4 : l_tarsal_distal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_tarsometatarsal_5 : l_metatarsal_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_metatarsophalangeal_5 : l_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_5 : l_tarsal_middle_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_5 : l_tarsal_distal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_hip : r_thigh<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_knee : r_calf<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_talocrural : r_talus<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_talocalcaneonavicular : r_navicular<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_cuneonavicular_1 : r_cuneiform_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_tarsometatarsal_1 : r_metatarsal_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_metatarsophalangeal_1 : r_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_tarsal_interphalangeal_1 : r_tarsal_distal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_cuneonavicular_2 : r_cuneiform_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_tarsometatarsal_2 : r_metatarsal_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_metatarsophalangeal_2 : r_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_2 : r_tarsal_middle_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | | r_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_2 : r_tarsal_distal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_cuneonavicular_3 : r_cuneiform_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_tarsometatarsal_3 : r_metatarsal_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_metatarsophalangeal_3 : r_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_3 : r_tarsal_middle_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_3 : r_tarsal_distal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_calcaneocuboid : r_calcaneus<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_transversetarsal : r_cuboid<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_tarsometatarsal_4 : r_metatarsal_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_metatarsophalangeal_4 : r_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_4 : r_tarsal_middle_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | r_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_4 : r_tarsal_distal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_tarsometatarsal_5 : r_metatarsal_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_metatarsophalangeal_5 : r_tarsal_proximal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_tarsal_proximal_interphalangeal_5 : r_tarsal_middle_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_tarsal_distal_interphalangeal_5 : r_tarsal_distal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vl5 : l5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vl4 : l4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vl3 : l3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vl2 : l2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vl1 : l1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt12 : t12<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt11 : t11<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt10 : t10<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt9 : t9<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt8 : t8<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt7 : t7<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt6 : t6<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt5 : t5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt4 : t4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt3 : t3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt2 : t2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vt1 : t1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> vc7 : c7<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | vc6 : c6<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | vc5 : c5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | vc4 : c4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | vc3 : c3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | vc2 : c2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | vc1 : c1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | skullbase : skull<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_eyelid_joint : l_eyelid<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_eyelid_joint : r_eyelid<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_eyeball_joint : l_eyeball<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_eyeball_joint : r_eyeball<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_eyebrow_joint : l_eyebrow<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_eyebrow_joint : r_eyebrow<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | temporomandibular : jaw<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> l_sternoclavicular : l_clavicle<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_acromioclavicular : l_scapula<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_shoulder : l_upperarm<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_elbow : l_forearm<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_radiocarpal : l_carpal<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_midcarpal_1 : l_trapezium<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpometacarpal_1 : l_metacarpal_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_metacarpophalangeal_1 : l_carpal_proximal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_interphalangeal_1 : l_carpal_distal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_midcarpal_2 : l_trapezoid<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpometacarpal_2 : l_metacarpal_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_metacarpophalangeal_2 : l_carpal_proximal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_2 : l_carpal_middle_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_2 : l_carpal_distal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_midcarpal_3 : l_capitate<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpometacarpal_3 : l_metacarpal_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_metacarpophalangeal_3 : l_carpal_proximal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_3 : l_carpal_middle_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_3 : l_carpal_distal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_midcarpal_4_5 : l_hamate<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_carpometacarpal_4 : l_metacarpal_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_metacarpophalangeal_4 : l_carpal_proximal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_4 : l_carpal_middle_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | | l_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_4 : l_carpal_distal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_carpometacarpal_5 : l_metacarpal_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_metacarpophalangeal_5 : l_carpal_proximal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_5 : l_carpal_middle_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | l_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_5 : l_carpal_distal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_sternoclavicular : r_clavicle<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_acromioclavicular : r_scapula<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_shoulder : r_upperarm<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_elbow : r_forearm<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_radiocarpal : r_carpal<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_midcarpal_1 : r_trapezium<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpometacarpal_1 : r_metacarpal_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_metacarpophalangeal_1 : r_carpal_proximal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_interphalangeal_1 : r_carpal_distal_phalanx_1<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_midcarpal_2 : r_trapezoid<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpometacarpal_2 : r_metacarpal_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_metacarpophalangeal_2 : r_carpal_proximal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_2 : r_carpal_middle_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_2 : r_carpal_distal_phalanx_2<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_midcarpal_3 : r_capitate<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpometacarpal_3 : r_metacarpal_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_metacarpophalangeal_3 : r_carpal_proximal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_3 : r_carpal_middle_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_3 : r_carpal_distal_phalanx_3<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_midcarpal_4_5 : r_hamate<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_carpometacarpal_4 : r_metacarpal_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_metacarpophalangeal_4 : r_carpal_proximal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_4 : r_carpal_middle_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> | r_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_4 : r_carpal_distal_phalanx_4<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_carpometacarpal_5 : r_metacarpal_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_metacarpophalangeal_5 : r_carpal_proximal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_carpal_proximal_interphalangeal_5 : r_carpal_middle_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New""> r_carpal_distal_interphalangeal_5 : r_carpal_distal_phalanx_5<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><div style="border-style:none none solid;border-bottom-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1pt;border-bottom-color:windowtext"><p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">-- <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 7:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>>; John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful. We definitely have had some mixed signals here.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:<u></u><u></u></p><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0in">Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<u></u><u></u></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly – X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">-- <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" style="font-family:"Courier New"" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac <u></u><u></u></li><li>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7<u></u><u></u></li><li>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 <u></u><u></u></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is correct according to the diagram. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Joe<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal">suspect joint or segment name, <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.<u></u><u></u></li></ul></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2807501749315664251m_-2952673254332055381m_8238996003422067734ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal">If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together. Onward…<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">v/r Don<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" src="cid:185fc098eecad7999131" style="width:694px;max-width:100%"><u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_-2807501749315664251m_-2952673254332055381m_8238996003422067734divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div><p>Hi, <u></u><u></u></p><p>The expected ones are not correct. Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. <u></u><u></u></p><p>The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. <u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li style="margin-left:0in">Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<u></u><u></u></li></ul><p> <u></u><u></u></p><p>No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p>The diagrams are correct. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Joe<u></u><u></u></p><p> <u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p> <br>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac. Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm. <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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