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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Otherwise X3D browser doesn't know what do you mean --<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal>what texture coordinate is supposed to be associated with vertex with<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>index 9.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes it does, or it should. Just reuse the last set on the list to fill out the list. </p><p class=MsoNormal>What is so bad about that? </p><p class=MsoNormal> Do you fail if not enough colors? </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Anyway, the Displacer is not working in 4.3.0 with no errors on that. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Skin/JoeKickIndex.html">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Skin/JoeKickIndex.html</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also, the item about the route statements being in a place you don’t like did not get fixed in 4.3.0.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Can you or someone please help me with <TextureCoordinate point='0 0 0.5 0.5 0.5 0 0 0.5'/> since I an’t seem to get the right number for happiness even when it seems right and works elsewhere.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>X3D: Invalid number of items in a normal or texture coordinate array for shape "Joe_Humanoid:Joe_Kick:Joe_Shape:IndexedFaceSet(Joe_skin_IndexedFaceSet)": Invalid index: 141, but we have 139 items</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Even when the numbers match at the correct numver ofverts it fails. </p><p class=MsoNormal>Is this finding something in the texture transform? </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sure would like to see Displacer working.</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:michalis.kambi@gmail.com">Michalis Kamburelis</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 9, 2023 7:30 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joseph D Williams</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com">GPU Group</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: New description fields</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes :) I know we had a few communications about this already, so maybe</p><p class=MsoNormal>you already fixed it in some version of the file and it is just not</p><p class=MsoNormal>updated on that page.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I just report that</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Skin/JoeKick.x3d</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>still has this error. Specifically, it contains geometry like this:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <IndexedFaceSet DEF='Joe_skin_IndexedFaceSet' coordIndex='0</p><p class=MsoNormal>9 5 -1 0 7 9 ...' creaseAngle='3.14'></p><p class=MsoNormal> <Coordinate DEF='Joe_SkinCoord' point='0.0 1.77 ..../></p><p class=MsoNormal> <TextureCoordinate point='0 0 0.5 0.5 0.5 0 0 0.5'/></p><p class=MsoNormal> </IndexedFaceSet></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So you use coordinate index "9" (and larger, later, like 386) ... but</p><p class=MsoNormal>your "TextureCoordinate.point" has only 4 items. So you can only use</p><p class=MsoNormal>indexes 0..3. Otherwise X3D browser doesn't know what do you mean --</p><p class=MsoNormal>what texture coordinate is supposed to be associated with vertex with</p><p class=MsoNormal>index 9.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Michalis</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>czw., 9 lut 2023 o 14:48 Joseph D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net> napisał(a):</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > X3D: Invalid number of items in an attribute array for shape</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > "Joe_Humanoid/Joe_Kick/Joe_Shape/IndexedFaceSet(Joe_skin_IndexedFaceSet)":</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Invalid index: 9, but we have 4 items in 2D texture coordinates</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ... and the error is valid from what I can see. TextureCoordinate has</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > too few points.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Is this back to telling me I have to have all texcoords for all points?</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Thanks,</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> From: Michalis Kamburelis</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 5:23 AM</p><p class=MsoNormal>> To: John Carlson</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Cc: Don Brutzman; GPU Group; Joe D Williams; X3D Graphics public mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Subject: Re: New description fields</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> To other X3D browser implementors adding "description":</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> If you also have been implementing RenderedTexture node (not in X3D</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> spec, but common extension, at least in InstantReality, Xj3d, and</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> CGE/view3dscene), note that you should remove the</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> "RenderedTexture.description" field. It can (and should) now inherit</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> "X3DSingleTextureNode.description".</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Sometimes automatic tests catch real errors :) (This nuance was caught</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> by CGE automatic tests.)</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Regards,</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Michalis</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> czw., 9 lut 2023 o 14:04 Michalis Kamburelis</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> <michalis.kambi@gmail.com> napisał(a):</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > I added to view3dscene/Castle Game Engine handling of "description" field on</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > - X3DSingleTextureNode</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > - HAnimDisplacer</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > - HAnimHumanoid</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > - HAnimJoint</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > - HAnimSegment</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > - HAnimSite</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > I also added HAnimHumanoid.loa .</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > As usual, the fix will be available in snapshot view3dscene versions</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > on https://castle-engine.io/view3dscene.php (also part of larger CGE</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > download, https://castle-engine.io/download ). Please give Jenkins a</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > 6-8 hours to process it and run all automated tests.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Note that these "description" fields seem unrelated to</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Skin/JoeKick.x3d</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > . That file only used "description" on Viewpoint, which we already</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > handled.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > After adding "HAnimHumanoid.loa", this file reports just this error</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > (many times) in view3dscene:</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > X3D: Invalid number of items in an attribute array for shape</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > "Joe_Humanoid/Joe_Kick/Joe_Shape/IndexedFaceSet(Joe_skin_IndexedFaceSet)":</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Invalid index: 9, but we have 4 items in 2D texture coordinates</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ... and the error is valid from what I can see. TextureCoordinate has</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > too few points.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Regards,</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Michalis</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > śr., 8 lut 2023 o 03:45 John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com> napisał(a):</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > I'm trying to collect information into one message. Michalis, please check view3dscene 4.3, I believe ImageTexture and HAnimDisplacer were missing description field in view3dscene 4.2 and 4.3. See links below for X3D4 tooltips specifics. The issue with view3dscene stems from adding a description fields in X3D4 using X3D-Edit (for the most part). There are also schema issues with the file in question (JohnJoint18.x3d).</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > I’ll double check the tooltips while I am at it.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/X3dTooltips.html#ImageTexture.description</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > (Yellow)</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/X3dTooltips.html#HAnimDisplacer.description</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > (Yellow)</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > If there are examples of HAnimDisplacer in the community, consider donating them to our testing effort.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > The good news is we have one good HAnimDisplacer node from www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Skin/JoeKick.x3d (in the file system on the x3d project our sourceforge). Michalis, Joe, the issue is that view3dscene throws all kinds of issues with the file.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > I was able to add the HAnimDisplacer in JoeKick to my JohnJoint18.x3d and not increase the number of errors reported by view3dscene (HAnimDisplacer without description seems to be working).</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > Thanks!</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > John</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:18 PM GPU Group <gpugroup@gmail.com> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >> No. I'm finished with that project, its somewhere in web3d. I think I referred to tooltips, which has v4 added fields in yellow.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >> -Doug</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 12:40 PM John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>> Doug,</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>> could you add nodes which have a new description field to your browser builder guide?</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>> Thanks!</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > >>> John and Don</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>