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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'>Look at Joe file to see how skin is done (attach to sites?)<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Look at the Joint nodes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>skinCoordIndex names the vertices controlled by this Joint,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>skinCoordWeight gives the weight given to the vertex animation relative to Joint rotation. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>O means the vertex is not affected by Joint rotation. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1 means move the vertex directly as the Joint rotates. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Movement depends upon radius from joint center to vertex. to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Between 0 and 1 is proportional. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 27, 2023 9:26 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Fwd: HAnim Schematron output sampled</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Next steps.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John </p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>John Carlson</span></strong> <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:17 PM<br>Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<br>To: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> Next steps for LOA4 HAnim model: try moving around the output of found* measurements in the *sed.sh scripts </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regenerate skeleton one more time and display for proofing skeleton in view3dscene, collect and fix issues.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Figure out the measurements left to populate.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Report missing measurements. See if output model changed.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Look at Joe file to see how skin is done (attach to sites?)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Probably I’ll begin work in a couple of hours.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At some point, figure out transformations that are excessive and try to recompute measurements below the transforms, take out transforms that have been nullified.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 9:02 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful. We definitely have had some mixed signals here.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:</p><ol start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root</li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1</li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1</li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly – X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..</p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac </li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7</li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 </li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is correct according to the diagram. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:</p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>suspect joint or segment name, </li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and </li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.</li></ul></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div id="m_1661986244189613017m_-3283242864835580834ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together. Onward…</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>v/r Don</p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=694 height=3 style='width:7.2333in;height:.0333in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:185f6c1b383ad7999131"></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div id="m_1661986244189613017m_-3283242864835580834divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</span> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div><div><div style='border:solid #004679 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:12.0pt;background:#004679'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:yellow'>NPS WARNING: *external sender* verify before acting.</span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><p>Hi, </p><p>The expected ones are not correct. Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. </p><p>The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. </p><p> </p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4'>Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!</li></ul><p> </p><p>No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.</p><p>The diagrams are correct. </p><p>Joe</p><p> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled</p></div><p> </p><div><div><div><p> </p></div><p> </p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p><br>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac. Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm.</p></div><div><p>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm. </p></div><div><p> </p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p> </p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p style='margin-left:4.8pt'> </p></div></div></div><p> </p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>