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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for excellent news Holger! Very helpful, now tweeted:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10">https://twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/1628080128726269952<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Holger Seelig <holger.seelig@yahoo.de> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 21, 2023 2:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com>; X3D <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] got Three.js and X3D?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to announce that X_ITE now also has support for .glTF, .glb, .obj, .stl, and .svg.
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😀</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As well as importing files, X_ITE can output XML, VRML and also JSON now by implementing toXMLString, toJSONString and toVRMLString.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.02.2023 um 07:39 schrieb Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks John, your suggestions pretty closely match mine. Workflow seems external to X3D4 pathways, typically performed offline. It seems sensible to avoid intermediate-format conversions if possible, since that offers more potential for
“lost in translation” conversion problems.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please note that X3D4 specification only supports glTF loading and rendering, not .obj files. Specification excerpts follow:<o:p></o:p></p>
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X3D4 Architecture, Networking component, 9.4.2 Inline<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/networking.html#Inline">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/networking.html#Inline</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
The run-time system can support any number of 3D model resource types as long as those follow the abstract model definition (see 2.[RFC2077]), provide a registered content type ( e.g., model/x3d-xml, model/gltf-bin, model/stl, etc.), and can be determined with
some form of content negotiation (see 2.[RFC2616]). The run-time system must support at least one X3D type ( e.g., model/x3d-xml) but can also support and negotiate any number of X3D encodings and (optionally) non-X3D representation formats. Support for loading
glTF assets (see 2.[GLTF]) also requires support for Shape component level 2 and Lighting component level 4.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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X3D4 Architecture, Networking component, Table 9.3 — Networking component support levels<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/networking.html#t-supportLevels">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/networking.html#t-supportLevels</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2">
Level 4, prerequisites Core 1 and Grouping 1, Nodes/Features and Support:<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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and .glb (</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">model/gltf-binary</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">) formats.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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X3D4 Architecture, Clause 2 Normative references<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/references.html#GLTF">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/references.html#GLTF</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
GL Transmission Format (glTF) Specification, The Khronos Group, Version 2.0, 2021.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Careful scrutiny of the prose above should reveal that we do not forbid browser support for other formats. A premier example browser which not only loads and displays numerous formats but typically can also save back out as X3D or VRML:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt">Castle Game Engine, view3dscene 4.2.0</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo5">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt">view3dscene is a viewer for many 3D model formats: glTF, X3D, VRML, Collada, 3DS, MD3, Wavefront OBJ, STL and (2D) Spine JSON and sprite sheets (in CGE, Cocos2d, Starling XML formats).</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo5">
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php%23section_converting&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Ca6737771084049eae05108db13f628e0%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638125720205416148%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ah3%2FoLvzULRISznxjTZ%2FenOioAmtg%2FtX5Y3k4NDicQI%3D&reserved=0">https://castle-engine.io/view3dscene.php#section_converting</a></span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#Conversions">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#Conversions</a></span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#Export">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#Export</a></span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, February 20, 2023 6:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>X3D Public Mailing List (<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [x3d-public] got Three.js and X3D?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My tendency would be to go from X3D to glTF or COLLADA to glTF and then load glTF into three.js. Also x3d to OBJ looks like a thing with aopt.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you find a tessellation library in all of this, that would good to know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 5:47 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Three.js is an independently developed Javascript library. Wondering about relationship (if any) for X3D use. Some X3D folks have used it in the past but am not seeing any common ground at<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Searching a little more, found some older posts:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Apparent overlap: capability for loading glTF models.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Just curious, thanks for all opinions. If there is something worth including on X3D Resources, will add it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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