<div dir="ltr">Again, I'm targeting 0 warnings, although missing meta node content attributes *might* be acceptable. Stuff like copyright. We can ask Michalis not to report containerField warnings, meanwhile, I don't want to keep adding containerFields, so patching x3d.py becomes attractive...should I build a whole Pascal environment to build my own view3dscene???? I haven't used Pascal for 40 years!<div><br></div><div>I don't think normaloids want to get in and patch their copyright contents field, so a required entry in Blender would be great. Doug?<br><div><br><div>John</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 7:54 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You forgot the HAnimHumanoid.joints field. All kinds of containerFields there in XML (at least for import into view3dscene). Should we ditch the joints field? Ask Michalis not to report a warning, I guess. Not my issue until someone else sees me launch view3dscene and starts asking questions.<div><br></div><div>John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 7:47 PM Joe D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><p style="margin:0.1rem 0px;line-height:1">> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;white-space:normal;float:none;display:inline">—the default, children, is not an acceptable to view3dscene. </span> </p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br>Sent: Sep 24, 2023 12:48 PM<br>To: John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Peitso, Loren (CIV) <<a href="mailto:lepeitso@nps.edu" target="_blank">lepeitso@nps.edu</a>>, X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [x3d-public] Discussion: containerField for x3d.py XML export</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for continued troubleshooting.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please do not do anything with containerField handling in x3d.py since it is unique to XML encoding.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can then isolate the problem and fix it. When errors do occur, it is usually an error in the scene, but sometimes a simple omission of some sort somewhere deep in the code autogeneration of the library.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">p.s. also thanks for your recent issue reports on X3DJSAIL, very helpful. I have made a number of improvements this weekend, hoping to publish tonight.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:34 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; Michalis Kamburelis <<a href="mailto:michalis.kambi@gmail.com" target="_blank">michalis.kambi@gmail.com</a>>; Peitso, Loren (CIV) <<a href="mailto:lepeitso@nps.edu" target="_blank">lepeitso@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Discussion: containerField for x3d.py XML export</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">First of all, great work on x3d.py, Loren and Don, I feel like I am polishing a diamond.</p>
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