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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Hello everyone. Any comments on updated draft for X3D SAI 4.0? All comments always welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Extensible 3D (X3D) — Part 2: Scene access interface (SAI)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>ISO/IEC 19775-2:202x<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>which is part of a family of specifications, illustrated at:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>X3D Graphics Standards Relationships<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dGraphicsStandardsRelationships.png<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dGraphicsStandardsRelationships.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>all centered on<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>X3D 4.0 Architecture<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-IS/<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>As planned, and as leads of X3D Standards Working Group, Dick and I plan to meet tomorrow February 16 at 1230 pacific on our usual Web3D teleconference line. We will prepare documentation of Working Draft submission to ISO. This will first be circulated to Web3D Board of Directors and membership for information and review.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Have fun with X3D!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 5, 2024 5:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org) <x3d-public@web3d.org>; x3d@web3d.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Richard Puk <puk@igraphics.com>; Web3D Consortium <consortium@web3d.org>; brutzman@nps.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI) review/revision and completion timeline<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>X3D Stakeholders:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dick and I completed our review of all 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI) general issues today. We think it is ready for submission as an ISO/IEC Working Draft (WD).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Issue list attached with the majority all resolved. Six remain that deserve consideration once we review later in the year how some programming languages “get the job done” for X3D. We prefer to leave these issues open in the SAI Working Draft while we continue updating other X3D programming-language bindings that implement 19775-2.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Web3D Mantis Issues – SAI<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Screenshot summary and text listing of all issues attached<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As described below, here are next steps:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>Immediate: Call for comments and 10 days review, x3d-public and Web3D Consortium members.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>1200 pacific Friday 16 FEB: editors review of all comments, and completion of Working Draft version.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'>We then submit WD 1 for Web3D Consortium Board of Directors review and subsequent ISO submission.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for all review and many efforts. Have fun with X3D!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 3, 2024 12:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Puk <puk@igraphics.com><br><b>Cc:</b> x3d@web3d.org; brutzman@nps.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI) review/revision and completion timeline<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Dick, hope all is well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have gone through all 11 of the remaining 11 SAI issues in Mantis, addressing most.<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Web3D Mantis Issues (use filter for SAI 19775-2)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Screenshot summary list of remaining issues attached<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><a href="https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1">https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Record of changes, each marked with corresponding Mantis issue number:<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Web3D Consortium GitHub Archive <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><a href="https://github.com/Web3dConsortium">https://github.com/Web3dConsortium</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><a href="https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC19775/ISO-IEC19775-2/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1">https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC19775/ISO-IEC19775-2/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Am thinking we can get through all of them on Monday, with later discussion in next X3D Standards Working Group meeting (please note that I will miss next Friday 9 FEB). For consideration during our upcoming review session (planned for this Monday afternoon, 1600 pacific), suggested timeline:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Call for comments and 2 weeks review, x3d-public and Web3D Consortium members,<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Resolution in February, perhaps 2 or 3 issues remaining open in this Working Draft while we continue updating other X3D programming-language bindings that implement 19775-2,<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Submit WD 1 for Web3D Consortium Board of Directors approval (and then ISO balloting) by end of month.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for continuing steady progress, take care.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Membership has value – have fun with X3D SAI! <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a href="https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman">https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Richard Puk <<a href="mailto:puk@igraphics.com">puk@igraphics.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:X3D@web3d.org">X3D@web3d.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Apologies<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I apologize but I will be unable to attend tomorrow’s X3D Specification meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-12.75pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dick<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>/******************************************<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>| Richard F. 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