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Thanks for review. Yes we might integrate another USE but am preferring slight difference in font styles for the displayed text.</div>
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Tweaked description text of TouchSensor to match sense of user message. Also added screenshot.</div>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 9pt;">all the best, Don</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 9pt;">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 9pt;">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 9, 2024 3:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org) <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] example model illustrating DEF/USE copy-by-sharing relationships (Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV))</span>
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The UserMessage Shape at the bottom could use the TextAppearance<br>
Appearance to avoid repetition and save a few bytes.<br>
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All the best, -Andreas<br>
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On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 4:19 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)<br>
<brutzman@nps.edu> wrote:<br>
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> Happy to apply these change suggestions, thank you Andreas.<br>
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> <a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForAdvancedModeling/Animation/DEF_USE_AnimationExampleIndex.html" id="OWA0d9b2fe6-4370-ef0a-e11a-a0264e1ab119" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForAdvancedModeling/Animation/DEF_USE_AnimationExampleIndex.html</a><br>
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> "Deep dive" computer science: rather than contrast between "pass by copy" or "pass by reference", am thinking we are closer to "pass by sharing".<br>
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> Wikipedia: Evaluation strategy, pass by sharing</div>
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> Have fun being an X3D copycat! 🙂<br>
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> all the best, Don<br>
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> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<br>
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> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>
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> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<br>
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> ________________________________<br>
> From: x3d-public <x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org> on behalf of Andreas Plesch via x3d-public <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 4:54 AM<br>
> To: X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
> Cc: Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: [x3d-public] example model illustrating DEF/USE copy-by-sharing relationships (Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV))<br>
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> Thanks for sharing this nice model.<br>
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> It took me a little to discover that it is necessary to keep the mouse<br>
> button pressed down for the animation to occur. Perhaps "To animate,<br>
> press objects with a pointing device" works a little better. Another<br>
> option may be to switch to "isOver" and ".., hover ..".<br>
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> The UserMessage text could use the TextAppearance for consistency and<br>
> since the theme is DEF/USE.<br>
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> Cheers, Andreas<br>
><br>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 08:48:03 +0000<br>
> > From: "Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)" <brutzman@nps.edu><br>
> > To: "X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)"<br>
> > <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
> > Subject: [x3d-public] example model illustrating DEF/USE<br>
> > copy-by-sharing relationships<br>
> ><br>
> > Dick Puk and I continue working steadily on specification Mantis issues. Latest is<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > *<br>
> > DEF/USE labelling and functionality needs to be better specified for SAI and programming languages<br>
> > *<br>
> > <a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=690" id="OWAe53db415-90fd-2e47-6ad3-945a4214c462" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=690</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Towards this end, I build a new animation model that seems helpful. Feedback welcome.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > *<br>
> > X3D Example Archives: X3D4AM, X3D for Advanced Modeling, Animation, DEF USE Animation Example<br>
> > *<br>
> > Illustrate how USE nodes implement copy by reference, resulting in immediate changes when original DEF node is modified.<br>
> > *<br>
> > <a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForAdvancedModeling/Animation/DEF_USE_AnimationExample.x3d" id="OWA45fba676-75db-45c4-9fc2-7afbd59e2e78" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
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> > *<br>
> > <a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForAdvancedModeling/Animation/DEF_USE_AnimationExampleIndex.html" id="OWA932d961b-24c1-fac0-ba5e-d615cb1df09e" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
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> > *<br>
> > [cid:670f7613-98f3-4bef-8981-ee1b1d5d19c3]<br>
> ><br>
> > Incidentally I used both XMLSpy and X3D-Edit to create the model, which was interesting and effective. Also updated all the catalog files for X3D Examples Archive to make such tasks even easier. Meanwhile found a setting in XMLSpy that aligns handling
of whitespace with X3D Canonical Form, which is what we use in version control and diffing and XML security and X3D Binary. Pretty simple adjustment: use 2 spaces instead of tabs for indentation.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > * Altova XMLSpy <a href="https://www.altova.com/xmlspy-xml-editor" id="OWAe2ed0670-b483-9b72-a7e4-bfe340311835" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
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> > *<br>
> > <a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForAdvancedModeling/Animation/XMLSpyPrettyPrintSpacingTextViewSettings.png" id="OWA2d1020ed-7712-cf5e-e84a-4209a243ebbf" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
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> ><br>
> > Have fun with X3D! ?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > all the best, Don<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> ><br>
> > Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<br>
> ><br>
> > Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>
> ><br>
> > X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a href="https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" id="OWA61e07975-8ebe-0aab-b103-3529cb1b57be" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">
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