<div dir="ltr">Yes, we can scrub the facial image. Not a problem at all. I'll do that next.<div><br></div><div>John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 10:02 PM Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:don.brutzman@gmail.com">don.brutzman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Congratulations John on getting this model to work!<div><br></div><div>Wondering if your changes were mostly incremental... if so we can diff/merge the xml (.x3d) versions and promote this model from the Legacy directory to the Motion Animation directory. Looking forward to figuring that out, please advise.<br><div><br></div><div>Meanwhile I looked around and found the greenCamo.jpg image, attached and online</div><div><ul><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Legacy/images/greenCamo.jpg" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Legacy/images/greenCamo.jpg</a> for</li><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Legacy/AllenDuttonIndex.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Legacy/AllenDuttonIndex.html</a></li><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Legacy/AllenDutton.x3d" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/HumanoidAnimation/Legacy/AllenDutton.x3d</a></li></ul><div>Looks like the materials will need to be scrubbed out</div></div><div><img src="cid:ii_md6scdvz2" alt="image.png" width="562" height="318"><br></div><div>Also added metadata for two related scenes</div><div><ul><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/basic/StudentProjects/AllenDuttonIndex.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/basic/StudentProjects/AllenDuttonIndex.html</a></li><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/basic/StudentProjects/AllenDuttonVillageIndex.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/basic/StudentProjects/AllenDuttonVillageIndex.html</a></li></ul><div>Here is the original VRML97, converted from a Cyberware laser scan, viewable today</div></div><div><ul><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/StudentProjects/ALLEN.wrl" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/StudentProjects/ALLEN.wrl</a></li></ul><img src="cid:ii_md6slv4y4" alt="7a8f194d-36ae-4a25-b19a-477c9974545b.png" width="204" height="224" style="margin-right: 0px;"><br><div><br></div></div><div>and here is the original 2001 thesis, creating the scan model in VRML and working so much of this out, 25 years ago!</div><div><br></div><div><ul><li>Dutton, James Allen,<i> Developing articulated human models from laser scan data for use as avatars in real time networked virtual environments</i>, Masters Thesis, Naval Postgraduate School (NPS), Monterey California USA</li><li><i>Abstract</i>. With the continuing gain in computing power, bandwidth, and Internet popularity there is a growing interest in Internet communities. To participate in these communities, people need virtual representations of their bodies, called avatars. Creation and rendering of realistic personalized avatars for use as virtual body representations is often too complex for real-time applications such as networked virtual environments (VE). Virtual Environment (VE) designers have had to settle for unbelievable, simplistic avatars and constrain avatar motion to a few discrete positions. The approach taken in this thesis is to use a full-body laser-scanning process to capture human body surface anatomical information accurate to the scale of millimeters. Using this 3D data, virtual representations of the original human model can be simplified, constructed and placed in a networked virtual environment. The result of this work is to provide photo realistic avatars that are efficiently rendered in real-time networked virtual environments. The avatar is built in the Virtual Reality Modeling Language (VRML). Avatar motion can be controlled either with scripted behaviors using the H-Anim specification or via wireless body tracking sensors developed at the Naval Postgraduate School. Live 3D visualization of animated humanoids is viewed in freely available web browsers.</li><li><a href="https://calhoun.nps.edu/entities/publication/78319ee8-7922-4b9a-b613-3c725cfee98e" target="_blank">https://calhoun.nps.edu/entities/publication/78319ee8-7922-4b9a-b613-3c725cfee98e</a></li><li>URI
<a href="https://hdl.handle.net/10945/1716" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,48,96);word-break:break-word;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px" target="_blank">https://hdl.handle.net/10945/1716</a></li></ul><div>Pretty amazing we are still able to work with this today.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Have fun with VRML, X3D and HAnim!</div><div><br></div><div>all the best, Don</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 3:11 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/refs/heads/master/src/main/data/AllenDutton.x3d" target="_blank">https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/refs/heads/master/src/main/data/AllenDutton.x3d</a><div><br></div><div>(minus the images and proximity sensor for portability).</div><div><br></div><div>I think if we can find the missing clone.* and greenCamo.* images, the model may look better.</div><div><br></div><div>Works in X_ITE, X3DOM (Tested AllenDutton.json), Sunrize, Octaga and FreeWRL. I'm not sure why mouse clicking on text didn't work in Castle Model Viewer, there aren't any Script tags. Weird, surely enough. Do you have feedback, Michalis?</div><div><br></div><div>Viewable source is here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/data/AllenDutton.x3d" target="_blank">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/data/AllenDutton.x3d</a></div><div><br></div><div>John</div></div>
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