<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes thanks, great to hear that it can get aligned. Joe and I plan to look at how we can prepare a pull request together on Friday.</div><div><br></div><div>It will be important to use your latest/greatest version because we are inserting joint names on every single line of the file... so diffing is not very practical.</div><div><br>Thanks Nick for your efforts, very valuable! Happy holidays.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace"><br></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">all the best, Don</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">-- </font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">X3D Graphics, Maritime Robotics, Distributed Simulation</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">Relative Motion Consulting <a href="https://RelativeMotion.info" target="_blank">https://RelativeMotion.info</a></font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 2:30 PM Joe D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><p style="margin:0.1rem 0px;line-height:1">> <span style="font-size:12pt">I'm unclear which one is the most up to date</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0px;line-height:1"><span style="font-size:12pt">Hi Nick, both csv are the same.</span></p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <<a href="mailto:nporcino@pixar.com" target="_blank">nporcino@pixar.com</a>><br>Sent: Dec 24, 2025 1:29 PM<br>To: <<a href="mailto:don.brutzman@gmail.com" target="_blank">don.brutzman@gmail.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:characters_avatars@lists.metaverse-standards.org" target="_blank">characters_avatars@lists.metaverse-standards.org</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>>, <<a href="mailto:3d_asset_interop_usd_gltf@lists.metaverse-standards.org" target="_blank">3d_asset_interop_usd_gltf@lists.metaverse-standards.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:h-anim@web3d.org" target="_blank">h-anim@web3d.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Interoperable Characters/Avatars] [3D Interop USD glTF] Addition to Joints list</p>
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<p>Hi folks! I created an issue to track the work here</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/meshula/LabRCSF/issues/14" target="_blank">https://github.com/meshula/LabRCSF/issues/14</a></p>
<p>The csv file I got from Joe is attached to the issue in case anyone has time to work on a PR after the break! I'm unclear which one is the most up to date, the one I got separately, or the one in this email.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays all!</p>
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<div>On 12/5/25 5:24 PM, <a href="mailto:don.brutzman@gmail.com" target="_blank">don.brutzman@gmail.com</a> (3D Asset Interoperability using USD and glTF) wrote:</div>
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<div>Thanks for sharing. I did some further checking to confirm we didn't misalign any of the other columns in the .csv file.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I did notice that a majority of LOA4 backbone joints were not included in the “CanonicalJoint” column.</div>
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