[X3D-Ecosystem] X3DOM - Help - HAnim Not Working

[John Carlson]

Looking at the link (for probably the first time), I see the geometry cache
flag, useGeoCache, will probably be useful for X3DJSONLD, cool!

John

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 10:22 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also,  you can turn on various x3dom debugging through the showLog
> attribute on the X3D element.  Check out the definition of the x3d
> element.  Goodies there!
>
> https://doc.x3dom.org/author/configuration.html
>
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> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 7:49 AM Bergstrom, Aaron via X3D-Ecosystem <
> x3d-ecosystem at web3d.org> wrote:
>
>> Doh!
>>
>>
>>
>> Vince, I just realized… I skipped right over Leonard’s email.
>>
>>
>>
>> The North Dakota nice in me says that you both deserve a UND t-shirt and
>> an ‘I (heart) North Dakota’ hat! You know… for each of your t-shirt and hat
>> collections.
>>
>> 😃
>>
>>
>>
>> I appreciate everyone who helped out and provided advice. This has been
>> driving me nuts for several months.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bergstrom, Aaron
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 29, 2025 1:46 AM
>> *To:* X3D Ecosystem public discussion <x3d-ecosystem at web3d.org>
>> *Cc:* vmarchetti at kshell.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [X3D-Ecosystem] X3DOM - Help - HAnim Not Working
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like I owe Vince a UND t-shirt, an ‘I (heart) North Dakota’ hat,
>> and $3.23.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the main problem was that I was not using the ‘Full’ version of
>> X3DOM (aka x3dom-full.js). As such the HAnim nodes were not defined.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once I swapped out the ‘x3d-full.js’ and the ‘x3dom.css’ files/links
>> suggested by Vince, it all started to work. Check out the links below.
>>
>>    - With textures as actual files -
>>    https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated.html
>>    - With textures as DataURIs -
>>    https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated2.html
>>
>> There is some weirdness with the CommonSurfaceShader… but the debugger
>> says something about missing tangents or something. I’m planning on
>> exporting Tangents in the future anyway. Not a big deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> This makes me happy.
>>
>>
>>
>> @Vince – Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* X3D-Ecosystem <x3d-ecosystem-bounces at web3d.org> *On Behalf Of *Vincent
>> Marchetti via X3D-Ecosystem
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2025 8:05 PM
>> *To:* X3D Ecosystem public discussion <x3d-ecosystem at web3d.org>
>> *Cc:* vmarchetti at kshell.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [X3D-Ecosystem] X3DOM - Help - HAnim Not Working
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> Leonard beat me to it on the hanimhumanoid not being defined. I think
>> that is a problem with the development diet of x3dom that your file uses. I
>> have tried modifying your file to load a different distribution of x3dom,
>> and also adding the trick of putting in a colored background I see the
>> following:
>>
>>
>>
>> < Screenshot removed; Postmaster nixed it >
>>
>>
>>
>> That is the Conan in silhouette , you also see the x3dom debug console
>> made visible by mouse clicking the canvas and hitting the “d” key.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further examination of this debug console shows we’re getting the
>> following warnings, again this is with a different x3dom version than you
>> are invoking:
>>
>>
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...
>>
>> WARNING: Unrecognised X3D element <multitexturetransform>.
>>
>> WARNING: Fallback to inefficient multi-index mode since creaseAngle=0.
>>
>> WARNING: Fallback to inefficient multi-index mode since creaseAngle=0.
>>
>> WARNING: Fallback to inefficient multi-index mode since creaseAngle=0.
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...
>>
>> INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements…
>>
>>
>>
>> Which leads me to the thought that this (presumably earlier) x3dom
>> version doesn;t know about the multitexturetransform nor the data URL you
>> are using for the textures.
>>
>>
>>
>> Incidentally, the x3dom file I am using above is
>>
>>     <script type='text/javascript' src='
>> https://www.x3dom.org/download/dev/x3dom-full.js'> </script>
>>
>>     <link rel='stylesheet' type='text/css' href='
>> https://www.x3dom.org/download/x3dom.css'></link>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am attaching a much truncated file which shows both the script and link
>> elements as well as the background node I added.
>>
>>
>>
>> Vince Marchetti
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> < attachment removed, postmaster nixed it >
>>
>>
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>> On Aug 28, 2025, at 8:07 PM, Web3D WebServices via X3D-Ecosystem <
>> x3d-ecosystem at web3d.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Not really diving in deep I found the following
>>
>>    - [X3DOM log] WARNING: Unrecognised X3D element <hanimhumanoid>.
>>    - Since everything (at first glance) appears to be a child
>>    of <hanimhumanoid>, X3DOM finds nothing to process
>>
>> I suggest putting in a background node (to establish camera orientation)
>> and at least one non-symmetric object to make sure basic processing is
>> working. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
>>
>> Leonard
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On 8/28/2025 1:19 PM, Bergstrom, Aaron via X3D-Ecosystem wrote:
>>
>> I will send the following items to the first person who can tell me what
>> I need to do to fix this X3DOM/HTML file so that I can see the animated
>> Conan character:
>>
>>    - 1 x UND T-Shirt
>>    - 1 x I “heart” ND baseball cap.
>>    - $3 cash + plus whatever I can find in my couch cushions at home.
>>
>>
>>
>> See the page:
>>
>> https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Leonard Daly*
>> WebServices, Web3D Consortium
>> President, Daly Realism - *Creating the Future*
>>
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