[X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page

[Joe D Williams]

HI Lauren,
Both <object> and <embed> can include a type.
One thing is: Is the type the same in both the use in object and in 
embed.
The classid in object may not work if the type is not registered by 
the classid you are trying to invoke. LIkewise for the embed the type 
is different and that may allow the plugin to be picked. Or, there may 
be only the one .wrl browser installed. So you are seeing it work but 
there are definately some potential problems and incolplete statements 
in there so without further detailed looking and trying, I can't tell 
you exactly how or why it is working.
Good Luck and Best Regards,
Joe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GLG" <info at 3dnetproductions.com>
To: "'Joe D Williams'" <joedwil at earthlink.net>; "'Braden McDaniel'" 
<braden at endoframe.com>; <x3d-public at web3d.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page


>
>> As Joe notes, you should be able to use a nested object
> element (without classid) in place of the embed element.
>
> That seems like a sensitive solution, but so far <embed> has
> allowed us to specify 'TYPE="application/x-cc3d"' which
> appears to successfully help select the correct plugin
> (Contact in this case - testing with Firefox 3.0.8). Perhaps
> I should try the above type in nested <object> instead of
> the 'type=application/x-oleobject' we now use. Will report
> on that in a few days.
>
> If you'd like more specifics please see
> www.officetowers.com, click "Connect to Server, Start,
> Enter, that will take you to the loading page in question.
> Thanks for all of the input Joe and Braden.
>
> Lauren
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joe D Williams [mailto:joedwil at earthlink.net]
>>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:21 PM
>>To: info at 3dnetproductions.com; 'Braden McDaniel'; x3d-
>>public at web3d.org
>>Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "GLG" <info at 3dnetproductions.com>
>>To: "'Braden McDaniel'" <braden at endoframe.com>; <x3d-
>>public at web3d.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:29 AM
>>Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page
>>
>>
>>>I am saying if you need to use classid in <object> to load
>>a
>>> particular plugin in IE, then you must use <embed> as
>>well
>>> for firefox to be able to load that plugin (or another
>>one
>>> to handle the mime type). In other words, using classid
>>in
>>> <object> will cause it to malfunction in firefox.
>><object>
>>> will work in firefox without classid, but using it breaks
>>> it. So if the <object> tag is broken then you'll need
>>> <embed> to fall back on. At least that is my experience.
>>
>>Well that is correct, but there was a time when Ff didn't
>>understand
>><object>, so <embed> was required for fallback. Now all
>>browsers will
>>accept <object> so the fallback here could be another
>><object> without
>>@classid and that would work.
>>However, later browsers are now just overlooking classid
>>rather than
>>failing, so in the latest you might fine you need no
>>fallback except
>>maybe some text if the X3D browser can't be found.
>>
>>At this time it might be good to test the W3C browsers you
>>are
>>interested in and see which uses the fallback, maybe by
>>having a
>>different X3D file name in the fallback content.
>>Best Regards,
>>Joe
>
>