[x3d-public] Stuck on Inlining JSON--Question for JSON Loader customers

[John Carlson]

Let me be more clear.  Do people want to use "Inline" as a key to an object
containing a JSON @url in a file received unto my X3D JSON Loader?  I am
thinking of adding a separate pass exclusively for doing Inline downloading
and substitution in the scenegraph.  I may do Inlines before protos so I
can create protos from inlines (or vica versa if someone has a good feel
for which comes first.) If no one is using the Inline tag to Inline JSON
(they should be able to use Protos or ExternProtoDeclare with my server
prototype expander).

The X3D JSON loader already has mechanisms for loading JavaScript objects,
and a currently adjunct library for loading JSON URIs called
loaderJQuery.js.
On Mar 29, 2016 11:50 PM, "Leonard Daly" <Leonard.Daly at realism.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> I am not sure I have a full understanding of what you are asking. I am
> going to restate and provide my view.
>
> Are you asking if people will use an X3D JSON loader using data stored in
> an HTML file rather than GETting it from a server? The data would be stored
> as a JavaScript variable (object) inside of a (HTML) script element.
>
> It seems to me that including data in code in a file that is meant for
> display is not good practice. The data is content, but it needs to be
> processed before it is viewable as content. I see JSON as far more useful
> as downloaded data. This doesn't decrease the need for a XML->-JSON->XML
> converter chain. Does your JSON loader load the scene into an X3DOM
> environment? If not, what runtime do you use for display of the 3D content?
>
> If it does load it into an X3DOM run-time, perhaps it is better written as
> the download callback routine for X3DOM's Inline.
>
> Leonard Daly
>
>
>
>
> Do people want to Inline JSON files in my X3D JSON Loader?  I think they do, but I’m pretty sure I want to separate the code out into my prototype expander.  How do people feel about this?  Ultimately, I think that X3DOM and Cobweb will fully support JSON, but until they do, can we develop a stopgap measure?
>
> I don’t want to put Inline JSON in my X3D JSON Loader, because it introduces a dependency on AJAX/JQuery, and changes the DOM/XML so I can’t do roundtrip comparisons with the original X3D.
>
> Who is using the X3D JSON Loader at this time and what are the requirements?  The loader is moving towards a support role for verifying the JSON encoding, and unless my customers speak up, it will continue to move that way.
>
> John
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