[x3d-public] Unexpected behaviour of X3D Validator

[John Carlson]

I think a good next step is to install X3D-edit, max the memory in it, load
the file and hit the check mark.   You need java 8 for X3D-Edit.   It may
reveal some problems with the file or the validator.

John

John

On Thu, May 31, 2018, 4:28 PM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I can confirm the validator behaviour. Perhaps the 'small' x3d is
> still too large to be processed although the no DTD version is
> actually processed.
>
>
> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/andreasplesch/973d94d6e88db471e9473b0af78a5a67/raw/8d8f0aa7b397973f42ee74f62f200a3849f92d5c/Shapley_small_tidied.x3d
>
> is the result of the no dtd x3d after being processed by the
> validator, plus the MFString fixes noticed by Leonard.
>
> x3dom is less strict about quoting in text node string field. This is
> why x3dom works for your nice ShaSS 3d page. No plugins needed.
>
> Not sure what the Safari 10.1.2 issue could be. Sometimes you get
> these no scene errors if the html/xml parser had problems, often with
> self-closing tags which work only in xml. Did the inlined x3d used to
> work in this version of Safari ? Other messages in the browser
> console, or x3dom debug console (press 'd') ? Does the inline tutorial
> example on x3dom.org work ?
>
> -Andreas
>
> > Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 11:19:44 -0300
> > From: Fr?d?ric Vogt <frederic.vogt at alumni.anu.edu.au>
> > To: x3d-public at web3d.org
> > Subject: [x3d-public] Unexpected behaviour of X3D Validator
> >
> > Dear X3D gurus,
> >
> > I am once again trying to assemble an astro-X3D model using the mayavi
> python module, here: http://www.sc.eso.org/~fvogt/Shapley/shapley.html <
> http://www.sc.eso.org/~fvogt/Shapley/shapley.html>
> >
> > I am on Mac OS X Yosemite (still?), and can load the model just fine
> with:
> >
> > Firefox 60.0.1
> > Chrome 67.0.3396.62
> >
> > However, the model does *not* load with:
> >
> > Safari 10.1.2 -> I get ?ERROR: no scene in resource? message in the
> development console right after it loads the underlying X3D file.
> >
> > I have confirmed that under Mac OS X High Sierra, with Safari 11.1, it
> does works, though!
> >
> > So I started worrying about possible formatting issues with my X3D file
> based on this old thread:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/x3dom/mailman/message/32684050/ <
> https://sourceforge.net/p/x3dom/mailman/message/32684050/>
> > After all, I already know that the VTK X3D exporter is far from being
> perfect! http://fpavogt.github.io/x3d-pathway/dices.html <
> http://fpavogt.github.io/x3d-pathway/dices.html>
> >
> > Which brings me to my question about the X3D Validator, which I tried to
> use to check for any bug in my model: https://savage.nps.edu/X3dValidator
> <https://savage.nps.edu/X3dValidator>
> >
> > When I load a smaller version of the X3D model (I can?t load the actual
> model, likely too big), I get an error because of the lack of DTD info. But
> when I try to include
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE X3D PUBLIC "ISO//Web3D//DTD X3D 3.3//EN" "
> http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.dtd">
> > <X3D profile='Immersive' version='3.3'
> >       xmlns:xsd='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance'
> >       xsd:noNamespaceSchemaLocation =?
> http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.xsd '>
> >
> > then the X3D Validator returns me an empty page.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong here ?
> >
> > The file in question (if anyone is keen to try it out themselves) is:
> http://www.sc.eso.org/~fvogt/Shapley/shapley_small.x3d <
> http://www.sc.eso.org/~fvogt/Shapley/shapley_small.x3d>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fr?d?ric
> >
> >
> >
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