[x3d-public] Showcase: 3D maps showing sea level change using X3D/X3DOM

Mon Feb 25 05:31:35 PST 2019

Happy to post about great work!  8)

Your approach sounds very sensible - zero time pressure from us Magnus.  What is the old ironic saying in industry, "we never seem to have enough time to do things right, but we always seem to find time to fix things..."

Please feel free to keep track of potential improvements to X3DOM documentation or implementation as you proceed, the development group is active.  We always benefit from developer feedback, deployed X3D capabilities continue to grow steadily.  Onward we go.

On 2/24/2019 10:44 PM, Magnus Zeisig wrote:
> Hi Don,
> 
> Thank you for posting about my project and for the appreciation. It will probably take a bit of time before I can start working on a geospatial version, both because my time is limited and because I want to improve a few things I found out when I learned more about X3D/X3DOM capabilities. No major additions in appearance or functionality, but quite a few changes "under the hood" to make code leaner and easier to build on for future projects. Unfortunately, X3DOM documentation isn't 100%, so it takes time to dig through forums, sometimes into the code itself, and do a bit of trial and error, to try and find out how some things are supposed to work and be used.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Magnus
> 
> 
>> 23 feb. 2019 kl. 12:04 skrev Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>:
>>
>> Hi Magnus, again thanks for sharing your work so that we all might learn and make progress adeptly.
>>
>> As discussed here, was happy to explore your models and post some screenshots on Web3D Consortium twitter feed.  Snapshot attached.
>>
>> =========================================
>> https://twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/1099255434039328768
>>
>> Showcase: 3D maps showing sea level change using #X3D #X3DOM.
>> Maps, videos, diagrams and tables showing effects of sea level rise in Sweden.
>> http://sealevelrise.se/en
>> http://sealevelrise.se/en/earth_3d1/map1.html
>>
>> Video: Sweden while all ice sheets melt, adding between 0.0 and 65.0 m to sea level.
>> Sea level rise above present sea level, "sea and land altitude" refers to new sea level.
>> http://sealevelrise.se/en/sweden.html
>> http://sealevelrise.se/videos/maps/map14_se-sweden_slr00-65_vid.mp4
>> =========================================
>>
>> When you are ready to work on geospatial presentation, here is a slideset and some examples that might help.  Being able to see the Earth's curvature as you consider environmental imperatives may well add further insight.
>>
>> 	X3D Geospatial Component
>> 	http://x3dgraphics.com/slidesets/X3dForAdvancedModeling/GeospatialComponentX3dEarth.pdf
>>
>> 	X3D Example Archives: Basic, Geospatial
>> 	http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/GeoSpatial
>>
>> Further assets are available, this activity is championed by the
>>
>> 	Geospatial Working Group
>> 	http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/geospatial
>>
>> Best wishes for continuing success with your efforts.
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2019 10:00 AM, Magnus Zeisig wrote:
>>> I hope I get it right with the addressing now, since I couldn't find any directives about it at the list site and some lists are sensitive about it due to privacy concerns. If I got it wrong, I'm sorry.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the feedback and links, Don. I'll try to check out the seemingly relevant nodes from the node list and other documentation.
>>>
>>> Information about material I publish on the web is OK to share any which way, including of course the 3D scenes in question. The material itself is CC BY 4.0, unless when included licensed material prohibits, so it's pretty liberal to handle as well.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty new to X3D/X3DOM, at least in this incarnation, so i'll need to read up on the geonodes, but I will as time permits and might update or publish new versions in the future.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Magnus
>>>
>>>
>>>> 21 feb. 2019 kl. 16:33 skrev Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>:
>>>>
>>>> Yes indeed really super!  Thanks for communicating your experiences, impressive.
>>>>
>>>> Hope it is OK to share news of your work on the Web3D Consortium Twitter site, it is always helpful for people to understand potential impacts of climate change.
>>>>
>>>> Future-version suggestion: adapt your models to use geospatial coordinates.  X3DOM reportedly supports most of these nodes.  Some references (more are out there):
>>>>
>>>> 	official x3dom documentation: Nodes
>>>> 	https://doc.x3dom.org/author/nodes.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/20/2019 5:25 PM, Nicholas Polys wrote:
>>>>> Great Stuff Magnus !!
>>>>>
>>>>> br,
>>>>> _n
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:26 AM Magnus Zeisig <magnus.zeisig at tele2.se <mailto:magnus.zeisig at tele2.se>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     I just wanted to say thank you to the community and developers for providing a great, quick and simple tool to get 3D scenes done and published. It took me a week of spare time from completing the first "Hello, X3DOM!" tutorial to having a set of 370 coastal areas around the world in interactive 3D on the web, most of that time required to massage geodata from GEBCO and GeoNames into proper format: http://sealevelrise.se/en/earth_3d1/
>>>>>
>>>>>     At least initially looking more for a quick tool to get the job done than to really learn all the nuts and bolts of X3D and X3DOM, I've probably made a lot of beginners' mistakes, and I'm sure I'll revisit and improve the project as I learn more, but for now, it's up, working and looking good. Once more, thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>     As a background, I'm not all new to 3D. I wrote my first 2-pass (light and shadow) 3D renderer back in 1981, in BASIC on a micro-computer with a 2.2 MHz 8 bit Z80-processor and 32 KB RAM, taking 2 weeks to render a 332 face mesh model (608 tris) in high resolution (2304x1152 px). In 1995-1996, I created my first 3D scenes on the web using VRML, and later worked with software like RayDream Studio, POV-Ray, Carrara and Poser. 2007-2008 I went into virtual worlds like Second Life and OpenSimulator, and contributed some code to OpenSimulator. Lately, I've created some 3D web content using WebGL and ThreeJS, and contributed some to the ThreeJS documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I left VRML when the existing viewers went defunct on Macintosh in the late 1990's, leaving it without a properly functioning viewer for a while, and since I didn't hear much about VRML afterwards, I assumed it more or less dead. I'm happy to see I was wrong and that its offspring X3D is still alive and kicking. While e.g. ThreeJS has its charm for some projects, it's overkill for others, and at least for this project, X3D/X3DOM definitely was a smoother choice.
>> all the best, Don
>> -- 
>> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br       brutzman at nps.edu
>> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA   +1.831.656.2149
>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>> <SeaLevelRiseSwedenTweet2019February23.800x62.png>
> 

all the best, Don
-- 
Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br       brutzman at nps.edu
Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA   +1.831.656.2149
X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman