[x3d-public] Turning on and off simultaneous animations individually

Andreas Plesch andreasplesch at gmail.com
Mon Feb 3 04:39:46 PST 2025


Hi John,

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:48 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andreas, "startTime" is an accessType outputOnly field, so why do I need
> to provide a value attribute in fieldValue?  I'm kind of confused.  I'm
> probably missing something in the spec.
>

You are right, I only outlined scenarios where the accessType allows input
or initialization..
In the outputOnly case it is not necessary to provide a fieldValue node at
all since there is no value which can be provided. Providing the node would
indeed be confusing, to both the user code reader and any X3D browser.
I believe the spec. is silent on this case in any encoding.

Best, Andreas

Thanks for any clarification.
>
> I have finally enabled schematron on the project, but I'm finding it hard
> to understand the messages, and modifications that I make, while removing
> the immediate problems, seem to move the problems elsewhere.
>
> Explaining why I need a "startTime" fieldValue value is my main lack of
> understanding, but perhaps I need a whole review of accessType.
>
> Castle Model Converter reports:
>
> castle-model-converter: Warning: X3D: X3D XML: <fieldValue> element
> references unknown field name "enabled"
> castle-model-converter: Warning: X3D: X3D XML: <fieldValue> element
> references unknown field name "startTime"
> castle-model-converter: Warning: X3D: X3D XML: <fieldValue> element
> references unknown field name "stopTime"
>
> I will try providing a field value in the ProtoInterface
>
> If I "cleanup" enabled, startTime and stopTime, I get:
>
> castle-model-converter: Warning: VRML/X3D: Within prototype "MenuItem",
> event "inputTrue" references (by "IS" clause) non-existing event "enabled"
> castle-model-converter: Warning: VRML/X3D: Within prototype "MenuItem",
> event "triggerTime" references (by "IS" clause) non-existing event
> "startTime"
> castle-model-converter: Warning: VRML/X3D: Within prototype "MenuItem",
> event "triggerTime" references (by "IS" clause) non-existing event
> "stopTime"
>
> I guess what I conclude at this point is, startTime and stopTime are bad
> DEF names, but what about enabled as a field?  The dominoes are falling.
>
> About your two scenarios in the other message, perhaps this is revealing.
>
> See attached attempt to fix original issue, which resulted in the above.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 3:59 PM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think x3dom, reasonably, expects a value for the fieldValue nodes:
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> <fieldValue name="startTime" />
>>
>> and others.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 5:42 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andreas, Joe,
>>>
>>> Reset Button, Reset_Clock added.
>>>
>>> See attached zip for details, or visit link;
>>>
>>>
>>> https://create3000.github.io/x_ite/playground/?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/ci2had/refs/heads/main/resources/CleanedYouClocks.x3d
>>>
>>> For some reason, this link doesn't show the live scene?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/ci2had/refs/heads/main/resources/CleanedYouClocks.x3d
>>>
>>> Puzzled, haven't researched it yet.  Looks good in Sunrize and X_ITE,
>>> will try FreeWRL next.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Andreas Plesch
>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>
>

-- 
Andreas Plesch
Waltham, MA 02453
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