[x3d-public] Turning on and off simultaneous animations individually

Wed Feb 5 11:07:29 PST 2025

Here’s the associated image:

https://github.com/coderextreme/ci2had/blob/main/resources/JinImageAtlas.jpg

 It’s in the FacialAnimation archives under HumanoidAnimation if you want
to pick it up from there.

Perhaps a simple diffuseColor would work too.

John

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:41 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a small example, Tongue.x3d.
>
> Your efforts are appreciated!
>
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> The reason is that Displacers are currently implemented in x3dom only for
>> Joints, but not for Segments, unfortunately. Do you know of a simple but
>> instructive test case of Segments with Displacers ?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025, 2:33 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I will try to test this in castle model converter.
>>>
>>> I did try setting a value for the outputOnly fields, but the converter
>>> wouldn’t shut up.
>>>
>>> The model below doesn’t seem to animate when one presses the menu
>>> items.  Did you get it to animate?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 12:27 PM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John, all,
>>>>
>>>> It turns out that x3dom currently expects a default value for Proto
>>>> fields even for outputOnly fields. This is due to how Proto fields are
>>>> initialized. They always need to have a value. While the spec. does not
>>>> require this, it seems still good practice to always define a default value
>>>> in the ProtoInterface. There may be a case where an outputOnly field is
>>>> used in ISing where a valid value would be expected. There may be other
>>>> corner cases.
>>>>
>>>> Here is your example with added default values for outputOnly fields:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/andreasplesch/af5ff3148c1159f71d34fb78c1f63024/raw/b3d4470107ab74e301ed48448ab2a4f4154672e0/ManyClocks_John.x3d
>>>>
>>>> This could be fixed in x3dom, by always setting some default value. Is
>>>> there a list of recommended defaults for each data type if no other source
>>>> of defaults is available? For SFTime it seems to be -1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 7:39 AM Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:48 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andreas, "startTime" is an accessType outputOnly field, so why do I
>>>>>> need to provide a value attribute in fieldValue?  I'm kind of confused.
>>>>>> I'm probably missing something in the spec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right, I only outlined scenarios where the accessType allows
>>>>> input or initialization..
>>>>> In the outputOnly case it is not necessary to provide a fieldValue
>>>>> node at all since there is no value which can be provided. Providing the
>>>>> node would indeed be confusing, to both the user code reader and any X3D
>>>>> browser.
>>>>> I believe the spec. is silent on this case in any encoding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Andreas
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any clarification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have finally enabled schematron on the project, but I'm finding it
>>>>>> hard to understand the messages, and modifications that I make, while
>>>>>> removing the immediate problems, seem to move the problems elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Explaining why I need a "startTime" fieldValue value is my main lack
>>>>>> of understanding, but perhaps I need a whole review of accessType.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Castle Model Converter reports:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> castle-model-converter: Warning: X3D: X3D XML: <fieldValue> element
>>>>>> references unknown field name "enabled"
>>>>>> castle-model-converter: Warning: X3D: X3D XML: <fieldValue> element
>>>>>> references unknown field name "startTime"
>>>>>> castle-model-converter: Warning: X3D: X3D XML: <fieldValue> element
>>>>>> references unknown field name "stopTime"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will try providing a field value in the ProtoInterface
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I "cleanup" enabled, startTime and stopTime, I get:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> castle-model-converter: Warning: VRML/X3D: Within prototype
>>>>>> "MenuItem", event "inputTrue" references (by "IS" clause) non-existing
>>>>>> event "enabled"
>>>>>> castle-model-converter: Warning: VRML/X3D: Within prototype
>>>>>> "MenuItem", event "triggerTime" references (by "IS" clause) non-existing
>>>>>> event "startTime"
>>>>>> castle-model-converter: Warning: VRML/X3D: Within prototype
>>>>>> "MenuItem", event "triggerTime" references (by "IS" clause) non-existing
>>>>>> event "stopTime"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess what I conclude at this point is, startTime and stopTime are
>>>>>> bad DEF names, but what about enabled as a field?  The dominoes are falling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About your two scenarios in the other message, perhaps this is
>>>>>> revealing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See attached attempt to fix original issue, which resulted in the
>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 3:59 PM Andreas Plesch <
>>>>>> andreasplesch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think x3dom, reasonably, expects a value for the fieldValue nodes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fieldValue name="startTime" />
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 5:42 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andreas, Joe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reset Button, Reset_Clock added.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See attached zip for details, or visit link;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://create3000.github.io/x_ite/playground/?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/ci2had/refs/heads/main/resources/CleanedYouClocks.x3d
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For some reason, this link doesn't show the live scene?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://andreasplesch.github.io/Library/Viewer/index.html?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coderextreme/ci2had/refs/heads/main/resources/CleanedYouClocks.x3d
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Puzzled, haven't researched it yet.  Looks good in Sunrize and
>>>>>>>> X_ITE, will try FreeWRL next.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Andreas Plesch
>>>>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andreas Plesch
>>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andreas Plesch
>>>> Waltham, MA 02453
>>>>
>>>
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