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    <p>I'm not really seeing glTF being exported as X3D by me. 
      X3DJSONLD.js may do it, IDK--try it on my website.  I think
      Michalis is working on something, and one could try with Blender.</p>
    <p>I'm not really a python programmer, and would tend to dump the
      .blend file as .json (using bpy of course), then translate to XML.</p>
    <p>John<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/21 17:51, John Carlson wrote:<br>
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      <p>I'm getting super tired of this.  Of course, I already had a
        working .x3d example:</p>
      <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/src/main/html/x3djoeandjin.html"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/src/main/html/x3djoeandjin.html</a></p>
      <p>I got the LOA4 diamonds working in FreeWRL. Doesn't work in
        view3dscene.</p>
      <p>What exactly did you want?  A VRML validator?<br>
      </p>
      <p>John<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/21 17:45, Joseph D Williams
        wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">This is fun and innovative and proves
            depth of x3d but not exactly what I really would like to
            see. Have the scene defined by and .x3d file. Then, for
            example, import the skeleton or geometries using json files,
            then serialize to  x3d xml canonical. I think you have
            pretty much proven that json can have capabilities to serve
            as an encoding for x3d, but I don’t think json needs to be
            promoted as a prime transport syntax, like xml and Classic.
            More like gltf might serve for certain common components,
            mainly as a transport scheme that aligns with typical
            industry data packages. </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for all, </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Joe</p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
              </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a><br>
              <b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 1, 2021 1:38 PM<br>
              <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net"
                moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a
                href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman,
                Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a
                href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>;
              <a href="mailto:hanim@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">hanim@web3d.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Production HAnim X3D JSON seems to still
              work</p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p>I don't have any checked in code working, but the last
            production release seems to work:</p>
          <p><a
              href="https://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/src/main/html/joeandjin.html"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/src/main/html/joeandjin.html</a></p>
          <p>So if you have pressing work, I can get you a copy of the
            website.</p>
          <p>Sorry, I don't have releases, I got caught with Ajv not
            working on draft 2020-12.   See attached image for
            production website.</p>
          <p>This is with X3DOM and X_ITE.</p>
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          <p>John</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/1/21 12:36, Joseph D Williams
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                HAnim working<o:p></o:p></li>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Fine, how about looking at the joekick
              model? Or, the LOA4 in the current spec, Annex A<o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
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              is loaded through a URL on the web page.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>The encoding is not the issue since a typical scene may
              consume x3d xml x3dclassic, strings, binaries, compressed,
              encrypted, with standard and custom subtypes.  This point
              is, _<i>if</i>_ the tool that creates and runs the x3d
              scene can produce the x3d text user code in canonical
              form, then it has  to be xml or classic, right. And, ecma
              or java. The tool can export code or data  however it
              wants including all or parts of its internal forms, but if
              the current user asks for canonical form or viewsource of
              an x3d scene, then the text must be 19776-n and 19977-n
              and I think would actually require the xml in order to get
              direct authortime validation. </p>
            <p><a href="https://www.web3d.org/standards/all"
                moz-do-not-send="true">All Standards | Web3D Consortium</a></p>
            <p>I sent this to hanim because we are looking at the hanim
              models in the archive. The quick way to start with hanim
              is to pick an loa4 because joints not animated are
              ignored. </p>
            <p>All Good, </p>
            <p>Joe</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
                  href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a><br>
                <b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 31, 2021 10:41 PM<br>
                <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a
                  href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman,
                  Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a
                  href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] JSON Schema meeting
                minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Joe, there are some ways of loading JSON through the
              runtime in X3DOM (which uses JSONParser.js), but
              typically, JSON is loaded through a URL on the web page. I
              don't want to overburden my customers by forcing them to
              drop into JavaScript.   There's also a different interface
              for X_ITE as well, and also one can load JSON through a
              URL on the web page.</p>
            <p>I think there may still be some issues with HAnim, which
              need to be addressed (skeleton field).  I will work with
              you to get HAnim working with X3DOM and X_ITE.  I have
              many, may issues with Java code generated from JSON in
              X3DJSONLD package.   Fixing those may help or hinder us
              from accomplishing our goals.</p>
            <p>Thanks!</p>
            <p>John</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/31/21 20:45, Joseph D Williams
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone want to discuss SAI for
                building a scenegraph from X3DJSON?  What approaches are
                out there?<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Just wondering, or waking up, why
                would there be a special SAI for use with json? All I
                thought I needed was a way to reliably import/export
                nodes and parameters ilnto a standard scenegraph using
                standard SAI interfaces. <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Sure, using external programming
                interfaces to build a scene by authoring or importing
                nodes and statements and structures is possible, but
                regardless the scenegraph is built from nodes and
                statements that may be emitted from and external and
                internal scripts activated when the scene is initialized
                using the spec SAI. <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">At this point I still think of the
                json as a way to store some data and some organized way
                for import into the x3d scenegraph using the spec
                interfaces for external and external programming. Bite
                my lip, but why think of a scenegraph built entirely for
                json? How can I say no way, too verbose<span
                  style="font-family:"Segoe UI
                  Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span>I don’t think there
                needs to be a canonical form for a scene built from
                json, like for x3d xml and x3d Classic. I think it is
                more appropriate to think of the Json as imported into
                or from the scene and integrated into the scenegraph to
                be accessible by SAI using the existing SAI with the
                canonical user code in XML or Classic (same interfaces
                for both).<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
                    href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph D Williams</a><br>
                  <b>Sent: </b>Saturday, October 30, 2021 3:52 PM<br>
                  <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a>; <a
                    href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>;
                  <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] JSON Schema meeting
                  minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
                <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                  style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Is
                  there a modeling language which encompasses everything
                  we want to do with schemas and semantics?<o:p></o:p></li>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">We have a modeling language that
                encompasses objects and object interactions in real time
                with specific control of the time. At the most abstract
                is it metaontologies connected to metadata connecting to
                real and virtual objects with interactive event
                processing?  <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
                <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                  style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">textual
                  SysML<o:p></o:p></li>
              </ol>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Is any of this usable in x3d? Ports,
                parts, and connectors to start. If it works then writing
                this language could be a guide to showing flows and
                interactions in simulations and realtime? <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">For me, the JSON should be
                standardized when it can be clearly shown to be an
                accurate set of rules when transcoding between the XML,
                the Classic, and the JSON, given the idea that the XML
                is the defining schema. That is, for a given set of
                data, equivalent results can be produced to and from
                equivalent data in other standard forms. <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Now, for the SAI, are we past just
                system of defining and validating syntax and data
                structures for textual x3dscenegraphs and now are
                looking for connects between these great achievements
                and some way to abstractly define and validate event
                processing by the scene object and internal and external
                objects composing the scene from internal and external
                events? Then not only can be validate the user code but
                also validate event processing without actually having
                to run the thing. <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">That is where the sysML comes in,
                maybe, is laying out the hierarchy and structures of the
                processes and flows in a project. Like showing that
                these two things are things and when this thing is
                started, then this other thing also should start, and if
                one takes too long then this should happen. I think the
                x3d scengraph can precisely document timing and event
                flows that the user has defined, so a competent x3d
                authoring system should be able to validate the syntax
                and structures and event flows and timing within the 
                scenegraph at any operating point.  <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Joe <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
                    href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a><br>
                  <b>Sent: </b>Friday, October 29, 2021 3:18 PM<br>
                  <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>;
                  <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] JSON Schema meeting
                  minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Note that encodings, bindings and
                schemas are different things, except that bindings are
                starting to look a lot like encodings now.  JSON schema
                has not yet achieved standardization, we are using draft
                2020-12, and it looks a bit like the JSON schema crew
                are having a bit of an issue getting a standards body to
                endorse it.   Since both glTF and X3D could make use of
                a JSON schema standard, I recommend that either Khronos
                and/or Web3d consortium suggest a standards body to the
                JSON schema folks.  Something like ECMA seems like a
                natural fit.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Note that X3D JSON schema depends
                  on JSON schema for vocabulary.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">In the early days of X3DJSON I
                  looked for something that would convert XML schema to
                  JSON schema, but it looked like any tool were were
                  going to use would not match what we were creating
                  with X3D JSON.  I don’t know if there’s sufficient
                  umph in XMLSpy to do it, but we might consider a
                  post-processing tool.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">I may still have code around that
                  converts xsd to owl to vowl if anyone is interested.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Another place we might place effort
                  is a validating API for X3D JSON.  I view that as a
                  valuable task, but I don’t have the personal passion
                  or brainpower to push it through.   First things
                  first.  You probably shouldn’t write parser without a
                  specification.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">This is pretty much the 5th JSON
                  schema draft we’ve developed for, not counting all the
                  X3D versions.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">We have X3DJSONLD deployed in 2
                  browsers and on sourceforge.   Does anyone want to
                  discuss SAI for building a scenegraph from X3DJSON?
                   What approaches are out there?<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">What’s worrying me is the lack of
                  expressively in X3DUOM compared to other schemas
                   (geoSystem, oneOf).   Perhaps we should convert to a
                  textual SysML?   Is there a modeling language which
                  encompasses everything we want to do with schemas and
                  semantics?<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <blockquote
                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct 25, 2021,
                          at 2:10 AM, Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <a
                            href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><brutzman@nps.edu></a>
                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </blockquote>
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                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Joe.  The USE pattern we
                          were working on in the X3D JSON Schema was
                          common to all nodes, not just HAnim nodes.  So
                          no change of functionality expected.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">We are always striving for
                          consistent expressive power for all the
                          different language bindings and file
                          encodings.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">We have 3950 X3D Examples
                          to test.  More are always welcome for the
                          archives if you think that further coverage is
                          needed of some capability.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">all the best, Don<br>
                          <span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                            New ,serif",serif">-- <br>
                            Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School,
                            Code USW/Br        <a
                              href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
                            Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA
                            93943-5000 USA    +1.831.656.2149<br>
                            X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics
                            <a href="https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
                              href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph D Williams</a><br>
                            <b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 24, 2021 5:12
                            PM<br>
                            <b>To: </b><a
                              href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a>; <a
                              href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman, Donald
                              (Don) (CIV)</a><br>
                            <b>Cc: </b><a
                              href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">X3D Public Mailing
                              List (x3d-public@web3d.org)</a><br>
                            <b>Subject: </b>RE: [x3d-public] JSON
                            Schema meeting minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi John, Getting this to
                            work will help. Are you looking for examples
                            to validate, beginning with a .x3d file? <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">If I can include USE in
                            the HanimDisplacer pt. then I can include
                            USE as Interpolator key and value fields(?)<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Including a USE in any of
                            the HAnim… nodes Joints, Segments, Sites is
                            not going to work unless, well, I can’t
                            really see how it would work in a ‘standard’
                            humanoid.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid
                            #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
                                href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a><br>
                              <b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 24, 2021
                              11:44 AM<br>
                              <b>To: </b><a
                                href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman, Donald
                                (Don) (CIV)</a><br>
                              <b>Cc: </b><a
                                href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">X3D Public
                                Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)</a><br>
                              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] JSON
                              Schema meeting minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Don, schema is here,
                            python seems to be working with added
                            metaschema checks.<br>
                            <br>
                            <a
href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcoderextreme%2FX3DJSONLD%2Ftree%2Fmaster%2Fsrc%2Fmain%2Fschema&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C51fbb182092b4d5bb02c08d9974c199c%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637707175517256956%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ZcklHNEBEtinlpnaTacqhx6dQUY2X0MYdh7vhMIRo1M%3D&reserved=0"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/tree/master/src/main/schema</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Next on agenda is bpy
                              to JSON conversion, possibly with added
                              GUI/X3D conversion tool.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct
                                    18, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Brutzman,
                                    Donald (Don) (CIV) <a
                                      href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"><brutzman@nps.edu></a>
                                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote
                                style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">John and I
                                    reviewed his latest schema today and
                                    discussed various design
                                    considerations.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">His latest
                                    version, generated by a Python
                                    program reading X3DUOM, is found as
                                    follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1"
                                    start="1">
                                    <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                                      style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
                                      level1 lfo4"><a
href="https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/schema/x3d-4.0-JSONSchema.json"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/schema/x3d-4.0-JSONSchema.json</a><o:p></o:p></li>
                                  </ol>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the
                                    result in Firefox was helpful
                                    because that has a great way to look
                                    at JSON which allowed us to
                                    iconize/expand (fold/unfold) as
                                    needed.  Excerpt follows.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">The result looks
                                    great.  One refinement John will
                                    handle: for nodes with a USE field,
                                    no -children nodes are permitted.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Once he has the
                                    next version, I will check it into
                                    the specifications directory (next
                                    to X3D XML Schema and XML DOCTYPE).<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">At that point we
                                    are ready to begin further
                                    validation efforts using
                                    multivarious tools against the many
                                    X3D examples in JSON, such as<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1"
                                    start="2">
                                    <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                                      style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
                                      level1 lfo4"><a
                                        href="https://savage.nps.edu/Savage/GroundVehicles/Jeep/Jeep.json"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://savage.nps.edu/Savage/GroundVehicles/Jeep/Jeep.json</a><o:p></o:p></li>
                                  </ol>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Testing without
                                    regex patterns is good for now.  A
                                    prior version had acceptable regex,
                                    so that appears to be do-able.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Having fun with
                                    X3D JSON!  8)<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif">all the
                                      best, Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif">-- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif">Don
                                      Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate
                                      School, Code USW/Br        <a
                                        href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif">Watkins
                                      270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA
                                      93943-5000 USA    +1.831.656.2149</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif">X3D
                                      graphics, virtual worlds, navy
                                      robotics https://</span> <span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                                      New ,serif",serif">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              </blockquote>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:5.5in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:5.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
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              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:2.5in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:2.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          </blockquote>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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