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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m not using or needing a debugger (though XMLSpy has a great one). No XSLT debugger in netbeans.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You will find many assertions and test statements in the stylesheets that report content errors when they occur.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Although XSLT can be pretty verbose, there are only a few coding patterns to learn (variable, if, choose, output, apply template). It is a declarative programming language for processing XML trees. I have found that XSLT is unforgiving
of mistakes (which is good) and typically stops after first error found. Saxon is excellent at pinpointing stylesheet errors where they occur. XSLT is a great language.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 26, 2022 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> GPU Group <gpugroup@gmail.com>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public@web3d.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] Plans for proceeding with C/C++/C# specification and implementation; XSLT and Saxon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Don, do you use NetBeans as an interactive step-by-step XSLT debugger? It may be worth it for me to try a different stylesheet with NetBeans.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m guessing you use the GHD (got here debugger), mostly. I’m looking for more than that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:13 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">John, as inspection of our open-source codebases quickly reveals, we have remained fully compatible with Saxon “home edition” free editions. Last fall we successfully upgraded
to Saxon 10 without mishap. A copy of the most recent jar is maintained in our version control so that any transitions or upgrades are careful and deliberate. XSLT itself is a W3C standard. There are no non-standard extensions in any of our Web3D stylesheets.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The Saxon project page on Sourceforge describes the various versions available.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">No doubt other tools exist as well. My personal approach uses Saxon/java/Netbeans as primary and XMLSpy (educational license) as second-check confirmation. You will not find any
other assets in our open-source X3D tools and content that require proprietary license support.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 25, 2022 5:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; GPU Group <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] Plans for proceeding with C/C++/C# specification and implementation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I tried StyleVision from Altova, but that requires XMLSpy. Pretty much B-DOA.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:41 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I guess the option for a cheap interactive debugger for XSLT (< $150 or free) is not there yet? I might even go with a subscription model. I wonder if someone can find a page listing
a subscription model for: <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.altova.com%2Fxmlspy-xml-editor%2Fxslt-debugger&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cc30c7e3a396b4bf04da408d9e10720d7%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637788243751318056%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=LxFMFOWdig%2BQRIoiHcHuQdHcLSFAAGrH9OTqm9txRgY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
XSLT Debugger | Altova</a>? Lost it. Thanks! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I got this message running X3dToJson.xslt in NetBeans 12.6:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Starting file:/C:/Users/john/X3DJSONLD/src/main/data/abox.x3d by file:/C:/Users/john/X3DJSONLD/src/main/lib/stylesheets/X3dToJson.xslt transformation...<br>
Error checking type of the expression 'funcall(lower-case, [step("attribute", 17)])'.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I don't think I've had issues with the Saxon jar, but let me check. Looks fine. Is there some way to override the NetBeans XSLT implementation with Saxon jar?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This is not what I wanted to do, go on a fishing trip. I know XMLSpy is basically way ahead, probably has been for over 15 years. I'll look for XMLSpy subscription cost?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Please, a personal recommendation that works with X3D, not a fishing trip. I understand that the Resources page shows X3D-Edit. But that's uses NetBeans XSLT, or?<o:p></o:p></p>
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