<div class="mail_android_message" style="line-height: 1; padding: 0.5em">I mean, what is the added value of a standard communication protocol for synchronization of scenes, as compared to a proprietary protocol?<br/><br/>Who are the winners of such protocol and who are the losers (who will pay the bill)?<br/><br/>In an ideal world, the winners should pay the bill.<br/><br/>--<br/>Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.</div>
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What can X3D emit and collect?
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Sound
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Events
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Essentially, any in a MIME Multimedia stream.
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What systems do we have beyond ParticleSystems? Do we need WaveSystems? VibrationSystems? PixelSystems?
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What if we just extended ROUTE with from/to url and from/to topics.
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I’m not getting a big aha yet.
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:47 PM Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi <span style="font-size:10pt">Christoph</span>,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think everyone is working on x3d4, next full documentation for next extension and update of x3d and so maybe does not have a time for working on this now, even as it is so important for the future of x3d. I would suggest continue getting all available info on past work on network sensor then trying to make a date with the x3d graphics team, I think probably Don is mediating, and get a time in the future to describe what you are doing. Or, somehow get the interest of current x3d tools. Also, making sure this x3d networksensor would handle any new features related to webxr and related. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at">Christoph Valentin</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 14, 2021 10:22 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:npolys@vt.edu">Nicholas Polys</a>; <a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:scoe@brg19.at">Christian Schoebel</a>; <a href="mailto:paul.mueller@gmx.at">Paul Müller</a>; <a href="mailto:roman.onic@kontron.com">Roman Onic</a>; <a href="mailto:markus.sonntag@tmo.at">Markus Sonntag</a>; <a href="mailto:kevin.wriston@kontron.com">kevin.wriston@kontron.com</a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [x3d-public] animated 3D multiuser. When? How?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Hi Joe,<br><br>>>>>> Along the way web3d can help achieve meaningful agreement and possible advancement to standards-track.<br><br>Would be great to receive official feed back at the list about my "ALP" proposal from last January: <br><a href="https://github.com/christoph-v/spark/tree/master/ALP">https://github.com/christoph-v/spark/tree/master/ALP</a><br><br>Kindest regards<br>Christoph<br><br>--<br>Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 12.11.21, 22:52 schrieb Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt">and Who? Or more accurate which groups of people and products. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt">Good question. Answered by: Who is showing these x3d scene features that use x3d best practices and widely accepted standards, and with at least one comparable independent implementation along with suitable node and field and event documentation? Along the way web3d can help achieve meaningful agreement and possible advancement to standards-track. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt">>>>>> Happy to hear if anyone thinks it worth carrying forward<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt">Might be that you are personally happy, but obviously the work is not appreciated by the rest of the community.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:4.8pt">And many people underestimate the efforts that are inherent to a CVE.<u></u><u></u></p>
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