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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>my focus is more towards tactile sign language and programming.</li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Right, to encode the tactile stroke, pinch, tickle and nibble, along with speed, angle and pressure, when dry, wet, or oiled. </p><p class=MsoNormal>The synchronicity and responsivity of related processes between participants in the shared set of tactile interactions may be important.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, </p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 13, 2022 11:02 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joseph D Williams</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Updates to Humanoid version numbers required in examples</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>While I continue to be interested in HAnim for sign language, my focus is more towards tactile sign language and programming.</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gotta save my hands for sign language, if eyes and ears go out.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 12:31 PM Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><ul type=disc><li class=gmail-m6939737679853117355msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>I may choose to delete hanim versions < 2 from my example data.</li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The only differences between v1 and v2 is names and loa4 hierarchy. So, I think most could be converted by simply substituting names for joints, segments, sites and that could work for most I know of. I can help with specific cases.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks, </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Joe </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 13, 2022 8:02 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Updates to Humanoid version numbers required in examples</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Right. I will no longer report Hanim version issues.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I may choose to delete hanim versions < 2 from my example data.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don’t have a definite agenda, we should meet to discuss the following:</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Validation of X3D JSON with something comfortable to Don and works. Hopefully autogenerated schema is up to date.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Discussion of any nested arrays in X3D JSON.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Testing of x3d.py with x3djsonld.py. Review of outstanding issues in test runs.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Discussion of updates to X3D JSON working draft.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Discussion of standardizing Python SAI.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:46 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi John. All of these models are X3D 3.3 and HAnim 1.0 (ISO version number). Some may be marked HAnim version 1.1, which is what we used as an improvement.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There are some changes in field names and types when going from X3D 3.3 to X3D 4.0 (and HAnim 2.0), so care must be taken when converting such models. Simple changing of version number has potential to be error prone.</p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2022 4:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>>; Joe D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Updates to Humanoid version numbers required in examples</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Due to x3d.py restrictions I think, possibly needed version updates to HumanoidAnimation archive examples, please update from 1.0 (or whatever) to 2.0. Sorry for the long list: </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>AllenDutton.x3d<br>AllenStandShootRifleM24.x3d<br>BoxMan.x3d<br>BoxManAnimationPanel.x3d<br>BvhConversion1.x3d<br>BvhConversion1Illustrated.x3d<br>BvhConversion1Invisible.x3d<br>BvhSeamless3dExport1.x3d<br>DiamondManLOA_0.x3d<br>DiamondManLOA_1.x3d<br>DiamondManLOA_2.x3d<br>HAnim1SpecificationLOA3Animation.x3d<br>HAnim1SpecificationLOA3Illustrated.x3d<br>HAnim1SpecificationLOA3Invisible.x3d<br>JoeSkinTexcoordDisplacerKick.x3d<br>NancyDiving.x3d<br>NancyNativeTags.x3d<br>NancyStandShootRifleM24.x3d</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>$ grep version= *x3d|grep -v xml|grep -v version=.2.0|grep -v X3D| awk -F: '{ print $1; }'| xargs ls -1|grep -v new|grep -v Proto| xargs grep version=|grep -v xml<br>AllenDutton.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_Humanoid' name='Humanoid' version='1.0'><br>AllenStandShootRifleM24.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_Allen' name='Allen' version='1.0'><br>BoxMan.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='boxman_Humanoid' info='"authorName=James Smith" "authorEmail=<a href="mailto:james@vapourtech.com" target="_blank">james@vapourtech.com</a>" "copyright=(C) 2000 James Smith - <a href="mailto:james@vapourtech.com" target="_blank">james@vapourtech.com</a>" "humanoidVersion=1.0"' name='Humanoid' version='1.0'><br>BoxManAnimationPanel.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='boxman_Humanoid' info='"authorName=James Smith" "authorEmail=<a href="mailto:james@vapourtech.com" target="_blank">james@vapourtech.com</a>" "copyright=(C) 2000 James Smith - <a href="mailto:james@vapourtech.com" target="_blank">james@vapourtech.com</a>" "humanoidVersion=1.0"' name='Humanoid' version='1.0'><br>BvhConversion1.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='Bvh1_Hips' name='Hips' version='1.0'><br>BvhConversion1Illustrated.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='Bvh1_Hips' name='Hips' version='1.0'><br>BvhConversion1Invisible.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='Bvh1_Hips' name='Hips' version='1.0'><br>BvhSeamless3dExport1.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid version='1.0'><br>DiamondManLOA_0.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_humanoid' name='humanoid' version='1.0'><br>DiamondManLOA_1.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_humanoid' name='humanoid' version='1.0'><br>DiamondManLOA_2.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_humanoid' name='humanoid' version='1.0'><br>HAnim1SpecificationLOA3Animation.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_humanoid' info='"authorName=Matthew T. Beitler Joe D. Williams Don Brutzman" "<a href="mailto:authorEmail=HAnim@web3D.org" target="_blank">authorEmail=HAnim@web3D.org</a>" "copyright=none" "creationDate=12 May 1999" "usageRestrictions=none" "humanoidVersion=1.0" "height=1.7504"' name='humanoid' version='1.0'><br>HAnim1SpecificationLOA3Illustrated.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_humanoid' info='"authorName=Matthew T. Beitler Joe D. Williams Don Brutzman" "<a href="mailto:authorEmail=HAnim@web3D.org" target="_blank">authorEmail=HAnim@web3D.org</a>" "copyright=none" "creationDate=12 May 1999" "usageRestrictions=none" "humanoidVersion=2.0" "height=1.7504"' name='humanoid' version='1.0'><br>HAnim1SpecificationLOA3Invisible.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_humanoid' info='"authorName=Matthew T. Beitler Joe D. Williams Don Brutzman" "<a href="mailto:authorEmail=HAnim@web3D.org" target="_blank">authorEmail=HAnim@web3D.org</a>" "copyright=none" "creationDate=12 May 1999" "usageRestrictions=none" "humanoidVersion=1.0" "height=1.7504"' name='humanoid' version='1.0'><br>JoeSkinTexcoordDisplacerKick.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='Joe_Human' name='Human' version='1.0'><br>NancyDiving.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_Nancy' name='Nancy' version='1.0'><br>NancyNativeTags.x3d: <HAnimHumanoid DEF='hanim_Nancy' info='"humanoidVersion=Nancy V1.2b" "authorEmail=<a href="mailto:cindy@ballreich.net" target="_blank">cindy@ballreich.net</a>" "authorName=Cindy Ballreich" "copyright=1997 3Name3D / Yglesias Wallock Divekar Inc. all rights reserved." 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