<div dir="auto">I am thinking that it might say … HAnimSegment node *and its children* provide// a visual representation …</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m unsure of the grammar.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 1:37 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-2784892076236777707WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">While reviewing various X3D Tooltip descriptions, found a lack of clarity and potential for editorial improvement in X3D4 Architecture specification. This additional prose might help clear up recurring mystery that sometimes occurs with author understanding of how X3D implements two Humanoid Animation (HAnim) nodes.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li class="m_-2784892076236777707MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Mantis 1402: Insufficient description for HAnimSegment<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-2784892076236777707MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1402" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1402</a><u></u><u></u></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><table border="0" cellspacing="5" cellpadding="0" width="1440" style="width:15in;background-color:white"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding:3pt;background-color:rgb(243,243,243)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Mantis 1402: Insufficient description for HAnimSegment<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:3pt;background-color:rgb(200,200,232)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Description<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></b></p></td><td colspan="2" style="padding:3pt;border-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(235,235,235)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Node description for HAnimSegment is exceedingly terse and insufficient to describe purpose.<br clear="all"><br clear="all">* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node.<br clear="all"><br clear="all">Recommend further detail. Suggested prose:<br clear="all"><br clear="all">* Each body segment is stored in an HAnimSegment node, providing a visual representation of the skeleton segment. Parent/child translation and rotation relationships are defined between parent/child HAnimSegment nodes.<br clear="all"><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:3pt;background-color:rgb(200,200,232)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Additional Information<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></b></p></td><td colspan="2" style="padding:3pt;border-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(243,243,243)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">References:<br clear="all"><br clear="all">* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimSegment" target="_blank" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span style="text-decoration:none;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:royalblue">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimSegment</span></a><br clear="all"><br clear="all">* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Segment" target="_blank" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span style="text-decoration:none;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:royalblue">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Segment</span></a><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p></td></tr><tr height="0"><td width="263" style="border:none"></td><td width="625" style="border:none"></td><td width="553" style="border:none"></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li class="m_-2784892076236777707MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Mantis 1403: Insufficient description for HAnimJoint<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-2784892076236777707MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1403" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1403</a><u></u><u></u></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><table border="0" cellspacing="5" cellpadding="0" width="1440" style="width:15in;background-color:white"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding:3pt;background-color:rgb(243,243,243)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Mantis 1403: Insufficient description for HAnimJoint<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:3pt;background-color:rgb(200,200,232)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Description<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></b></p></td><td colspan="2" style="padding:3pt;border-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(235,235,235)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Node description for HAnimJoint is exceedingly terse and insufficient to describe purpose.<br clear="all"><br clear="all">* Each joint in the body is represented by an HAnimJoint node, which is used to define the relationship of each body segment to its immediate parent.<br clear="all"><br clear="all">Recommend further detail. Suggested prose addition:<br clear="all"><br clear="all">* The child HAnimSegment node provides a visual representation of the skeleton segment.<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:3pt;background-color:rgb(200,200,232)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Additional Information<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></b></p></td><td colspan="2" style="padding:3pt;border-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(243,243,243)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">References:<br clear="all"><br clear="all">* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimJoint" target="_blank" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span style="text-decoration:none;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:royalblue">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-DIS/Part01/components/hanim.html#HAnimJoint</span></a><br clear="all"><br clear="all">* <a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Joint" target="_blank" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span style="text-decoration:none;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:royalblue">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774/V2.0/Architecture/ObjectInterfaces.html#Joint</span></a><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p></td></tr><tr height="0"><td width="373" style="border:none"></td><td width="533" style="border:none"></td><td width="534" style="border:none"></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">All comments on this suggest improvement to editorial phrasing are welcome. Please note that no functional changes are involved.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Next. As previously announced, we will be going over all Web3D comments on the current ISO ballot during this week’s X3D Working Group meeting, Friday October 7, 09-1000 pacific. Only a handful are outstanding and we expect to resolve them all as either (a) ballot submission, or (b) defer to X3D4.1. Participation welcome.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Have fun with X3D clarity! 8)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u> <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">all the best, Don<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">-- <u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Courier New"">brutzman@nps.edu</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Courier New"">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u><u style="font-family:"Courier New""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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