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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful. We definitely have had some mixed signals here.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo11'>Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo11'>Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo11'>Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly – X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Joseph D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu>; John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public@web3d.org><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=xmsonormal style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac <o:p></o:p></li><li class=xmsonormal style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7<o:p></o:p></li><li class=xmsonormal style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is correct according to the diagram. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6'>suspect joint or segment name, <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6'>the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6'>the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.<o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=ms-outlook-mobile-signature><div><p class=MsoNormal>If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together. Onward…<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>v/r Don<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=554 height=2 style='width:5.775in;height:.0208in' id="Horizontal_x0020_Line_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D93281.64950CC0"><o:p></o:p></p><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='border:solid #004679 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#004679'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:yellow'>NPS WARNING: *external sender* verify before acting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=xmsonormal>Hi, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>The expected ones are not correct. Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=xmsolistparagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo9'>Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>The diagrams are correct. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xmsonormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Don Brutzman</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal><br>vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac. Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe. X3DUOM/schematron wins!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=xmsonormal>l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal>r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7. Please confirm. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>