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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>2. Makehuman2 + x3d export + AI assisted animation blending<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal>In any animation project recall that animation does not need to be stored as strictly what to do when, but can be generated in realtime according to various stimulus/response events </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com">GPU Group</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, May 28, 2023 6:04 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] Web3D SPAIN 2023 Papers, Tutorials > suggestions</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.1/addons/rigging/rigify/index.html">https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.1/addons/rigging/rigify/index.html</a> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Rigify (Edit > Preferences > AddOns > Rigging Rigify) generates some kind of sharable rig</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- one idea is to figure out the format of its sharable rigs, and make HANim LOA rigs in that format from another tool, so easy to import rig to go with skin/mesh.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- for example, makehuman2 could make an LOA of the right size for the skin, in Rigify format, if it doesn't already.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Doug</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 5:05 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>There is quite a bit of blender python code on sourceforge, but i don’t know what some of it is yet.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Search for “import bpy”</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Any documentation would be helpful.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck! I’m stuck on my phone for now!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I reported my results on armature python a few weeks ago on the mailing list, i think.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 5:56 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Armature = HAnim skeleton. English dictionary is helpful. Aka rigging, I believe.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>When you read in an X3D HAnim scene with import, the armature is not loaded, according to python variables.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My understanding is one must add armature either through COLLADA/HAnim support, or through menus/mouse in Blender. For X3D, geometry is loaded, not the skeleton/armature.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Armature is a Blender thing, and I believe one can be added with python, once the root is there. I’ve seen code to add the root of the armature in python, but tried alternate syntax.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ideally the armature(s) would be loaded with HAnim or X3D file. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:53 PM GPU Group <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good suggestion. What is the armature import about -- is there an HAnim armature scene file example, you mean with the LOA stuff? Perhaps that can be added as an export thing to Makehuman2 which I think is in python. Then you would check a box for the LOA you want . And appropriately size the armature for the skin/clothing being exported. Does Blender have built-in armatures -- would blender need to be modified to import an armature?</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Doug</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 2:43 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>1-4 look super interesting. Let me know of any videos! Thanks! I can’t really contribute due to carpal tunnel.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Blender HAnim Armature X3D HAnim import would also be terrific for anyone doing python!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:38 PM GPU Group <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Suggestions for topics for tutorials / demos / papers -- any of these look appropriate, and if so can they be delivered by zoom or is on-site attendance required?</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>1. Nvidia Omniverse + web3d hybrid</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2. Makehuman2 + x3d export + AI assisted animation blending</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3. freewrl WebView html + native hybrid so can run x3dom scenes in native nodes and opengl 3+</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>4. visual regression testing (ie console_tester) </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>5. Tuples in x3d (like Script node with user-defined fields, except without the script, and fields initializeOnly, and can be routed as SFNode)</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6. softbody physics</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>7. HMD with webXR or openHMD, wand controllers</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>8. tensor heat flow component</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>9. cesium scene parsing</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>10. MIDI + web audio integration, nodes + integration</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>11. tutorial on web audio nodes </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>12. raytracing on mouse-up</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>13. humanoid-crowd particle animation</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>14. 'what's new with browser X' show & tell.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-Doug</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:24.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>