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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'>John, you are silent on whether you think the online HTML pretty-print versions examples are now OK, as the email thread was exploring. Confusing.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'>John, I do understand your concern that “python links on these pages producing incorrect XML output.” The precise problem with the output is unstated, however. What is incorrect?<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Of course those converted python programs do not themselves produce XML output, that takes a little modification and testing by you in your preferred python programming environment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>Once again: do not patch any of the stylesheets.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Once again: outside of XML, do nothing with containerField entries.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Once again: suggest you modify the provided Python for LOA 0 example model (for best simplicity) to diagnose what is incorrect. Then look at the difference between original correct XML and your python-produced XML. If the new result is invalid, then please show what is wrong and then I have something repeatable that can be fixed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Once again: If we get LOA 0 confirmed working, you can try LOA 1 and repeat process.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure that I’ve said anything new or different for lo these many responses I’ve provided. Hope this is making sense.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> John Carlson <yottzumm@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu><br><b>Cc:</b> Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch@gmail.com>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public@web3d.org>; Peitso, Loren (CIV) <lepeitso@nps.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [x3d-public] x3d.py roundtrip for Metadata nodes in v.3.3 and v.4.0<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 8:01 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p>Rather than constructing a new example, we have some existing models for X3D3/X3D4 Metadata nodes already in the X3D Example Archives.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>I looked at the HTML5 pretty-print documentation for our two sets of X3D3/X3D4 metadata examples. Found a problem in X3dToXhtml.xslt conversion stylesheet, was able to fix it.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>The following examples should now all show the correct defaults:<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>X3D Example Archives: X3D4WA, X3D for Web Authors, Chapter 15 Metadata<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForWebAuthors/Chapter15Metadata/index.html" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dForWebAuthors/Chapter15Metadata/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p> <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'>Metadata Node Examples X3D 3<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'>Metadata Node Examples X3D 4<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'>World Info Example Metadata Set X3D 3<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'>World Info Example Metadata Set X3D 3<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Don, we are concerned about the python links on these pages producing incorrect XML output. Can you provide updates to x3d.py, if there are updates? Otherwise, I'm afraid Andreas' and Vince's points still stand. We really need updates to x3d.py. We would like to try to patch it with your permission. We would like to add containerFields as best as we can to the output of x3d.py. It's not that we can't patch output from x3d.py. I hope you understand that we don't want to hand edit x3d.py output as that would look bad for the Web3D Consortium to produce files from x3d.py that required hand editing. Especially if someone is downloading x3d.py from a website and does not have these threads handy to to read.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you like, I can download the XML, convert to python, then produce XML from the python code (using x3d.py off the shelf). But I'm afraid I will get the same results as Vince and Andreas.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andreas did address some of the solution. See his link to the stylesheet in question, which I provide here: <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fp%2Fx3d%2Fcode%2FHEAD%2Ftree%2Fwww.web3d.org%2Fx3d%2Fstylesheets%2FX3duomToX3dPythonPackage.xslt&data=05%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C40be062991d041aeb27208dbda825f9d%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638344025726602652%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Hd2UVX30Ha5iQseoEGpixC5cnp1x1PvgOf5MTfaexJU%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/X3duomToX3dPythonPackage.xslt</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>