<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I agree that the pointSizeMaxValue='100' should be added to the field values.<div><br></div><div>Vince Marchetti</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 3, 2024, at 1:42 AM, Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman@nps.edu> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Thanks for noting this issue Holger. The discrepancy is not immediately noticeable in the source, since X3D canonical form omits default values.</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">I've copied Vince Marchetti who is original author of the model in question.</div><div id="Signature" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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text-decoration: none;"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>x3d-public <<a href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org">x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>> on behalf of Holger Seelig via x3d-public <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 2, 2024 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>X3D <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Holger Seelig <<a href="mailto:holger.seelig@yahoo.de">holger.seelig@yahoo.de</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[x3d-public] Wrong values in PointProperties of example</font><div> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; line-break: after-white-space;">Test <a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Points/BasicPointSpritesIndex.html">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Points/BasicPointSpritesIndex.html</a> violates the rules of the specification. The rules say: The provided value for pointSizeMinValue shall be less than or equal to value for pointSizeMaxValue. This means that with the provided values (5, 1) the behavior is undefined.<div><div><div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><div><br></div><div>I assume that pointSizeMaxValue should actually be 100, as a reasonable result can be achieved with this value.</div><div><br></div><div>Reference:</div><div><a href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V4.0/Part01/components/shape.html#PointProperties">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V4.0/Part01/components/shape.html#PointProperties</a></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Holger</div><div><br></div></div><div><font><span>--</span></font></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Holger Seelig</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Leipzig, Germany</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="mailto:holger.seelig@yahoo.de">holger.seelig@yahoo.de</a></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="https://create3000.github.io/x_ite/">https://create3000.github.io/x_ite/</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>