<div dir="auto">Okay, Joe.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can create a list of “mesh” names, and maybe someone can figure out which meshes go together to form the face, then we can revisit how to merge the meshes?</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 8:55 PM Joe D Williams via x3d-public <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt"><p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"> > <span style="font-size:12pt">coord.point changes are very very expensive quickly, </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Right, the processing time gets expensive as the number of points moved.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">If level 1 segment geometry where the mesh is driven directly by a joint, then it easier since weight is always 1.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">For level 2 skin, the the weight (radial movement) applied by maybe multiple joints needs to be computed for each point. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Finally, for both levels, the displacements for selected set of points needs to be applied. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">This implies multiple passes on the subject coordinates? </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Whatever, these operations are common where the applications deal with </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">a complete mesh and with sparse points of a mesh for blending. . </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">> </span><span style="font-size:12pt">with reference to CoordinateInterpolator, </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">These are useful when controlling all points of a target mesh. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">All points of a mesh must be included and same number of points at each keyframe. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">This style was used in first step of the current example x3d FACS because </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">face geometry is made from multiple shapes. C</span><span style="font-size:12pt">oordinateInterpolater sets </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">for each shape for each elemental action moved the points. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">This was simplified to using the same face for each action example </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">and then replaced the CIs with sets of Displacers. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Now have developed further to combine individual actions </span><span style="font-size:12pt">to make a </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">specific expression which consists of multiple elemental movements. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">However, I think we want to evolve towards a basic single mesh face </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">with some individual shapes for like teeth, hair, eyeballs, eyelids, tongue, maybe ears?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">and using joint nodes to control, where appropriate. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Regardless of how the points are moved for the next frame, it has to be </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">considered that </span><span style="font-size:12pt">geometry points will be moved directly by joint rotations, </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">by a weighting algorithm using multiple joint rotation inputs, </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">and by one or more scalar-driven Displacer inputs. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0;line-height:1.0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Thanks for HAnim,</span></p>
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I don't think so, coord.point changes are very very expensive quickly, and as Michalis said earlier, with reference to CoordinateInterpolator, we should get rid of them.
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<div style="margin:0.1rem 0px;line-height:1">sorry,I don't see a field anywhere with that event. Displacer is likely to change several points when new weight is sent. All part of the cascade to produce the changed mesh?</div>
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<div id="m_-9020394307727311793m_-3249451473484689604m_-5864293673180594623m_3240166723513497384divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><strong>From:</strong> x3d-public <<a href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>> on behalf of John Carlson via x3d-public <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>><br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, February 8, 2025 3:43 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Extensible 3D (X3D) Graphics public discussion <<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>>; Carol McDonald <<a href="mailto:cemd2@comcast.net" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">cemd2@comcast.net</a>>; Joe D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>><br><strong>Cc:</strong> John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>; Andreas Plesch <<a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">andreasplesch@gmail.com</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [x3d-public] HAnimDisplacer effect on coord.point</span>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Here’s what HAnim spec says under Displacer: </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr;font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:26px">“For the </span><span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Displacer</strong></span><span style="font-size:26px"> objects that are contained in the <em>displacers</em> field of the </span><span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span><span style="font-size:26px"> objects, the <em>displacements</em> are defined and applied in the </span><span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span><span style="font-size:26px"> coordinate system. The base mesh for the morphed </span><span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span><span style="font-size:26px"> is the original mesh defined in the </span><span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span><span style="font-size:26px">.”</span></div>
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<p style="direction:ltr;text-indent:0px;font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:26px">The <em>coord</em> field is used for <span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span> objects that have deformable meshes and shall contain coordinates referenced from the indexed mesh for the <span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span> object. The coordinates are given the same name as the <span style="font-size:24px"><strong>Segment</strong></span> object, but with a <span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:20px"> <code>"_coords"</code></span> appended (e.g.,<span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:20px"><code>"skull_coords"</code></span>).”</p>
<div style="direction:ltr">displacements are an offset from the mesh, with weight from 0 to 1. So weight times displacement is total offset from base mesh. 0 weight = no offset, 1 weight = full displacements offset</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">The Coordinate point is maintained to handle weight = 0. Weight ranges from 0 to 1, but double check.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Joe or Carol might know where to find it in the HAnim spec.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I believe the answer is, “during rendering,”. Since weight can vary with animation, and so can displacements, AFAIK. More than one displacer can be applied to the mesh.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I have not read the spec.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 5:13 AM Andreas Plesch via x3d-public <<a id="m_-9020394307727311793m_-3249451473484689604m_-5864293673180594623m_3240166723513497384OWAb86c4cd8-27f2-681e-bb7e-2732c863133b" href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">does not directly explain what the effect of the displacer on the coord.point field of the containing HAnimSegment is. But it mentions the coord.point field and seems to imply that the coord.point field is involved.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">So the question is if the Displacer should alter the coord.point field in order to achieve a graphical displacement, or if the Browser should only apply the displacements during rendering without a change in the coord.point field ?</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">This is relevant if the coord.point field is accessed by routes or scripts, in addition to displacers.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Thanks for any feedback or ideas,</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Andreas</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Andreas Plesch<br>Waltham, MA 02453</div>
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