[Korea-chapter] [kaist-nps] meeting minutes, CAD Translation : Macro - Parametric Approach
Pranveer Singh
pranveersinghrathore at gmail.com
Tue Nov 24 01:55:25 PST 2009
Dear Sir,
In reference to the previous mails, I have uploaded the video (.mov
format) to Web3D member documents directory for Macro.
--
Best Regards,
Pranveer Singh Rathore
M.S. Candidate
iCAD Laboratory
Mechanical Engineering Department
Korea Advanced Institute of Science & Technology
Daejeon, South Korea
Cell Phone Nr: +82-010-7217-3080
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
> Pranveer and I had a followup meeting today.
>
>
> Don Brutzman wrote:
>
>> thanks for persevering to have a teleconference call today Pranveer.
>> i'm glad that we finally found a time that was workable.
>>
>> your slideset is on the Web3D Member Documents Directory.
>> http://www.web3d.org
>> Member Login
>> Post or Download Documents in Members Working Group Folders
>> folders CAD > Macro
>>
>
> the .avi demo video did not work, probably a codec problem, can you
>> make a different version? .mov quicktime or .mpeg is preferred since
>> other operating systems can then view it.
>>
>
> a new video will be uploaded soon, using a different video format, and
> placed in the member/CAD/macro document directory above.
>
>
> it was good to look again at your examples, which are online at
>> http://www.macro-parametrics.org/Introduction_12.html
>>
>> am hoping that you can get permissions to
>> - put one or all examples under an open-source license, for example
>>
>> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#license
>>
>
> some of the examples can be released as open source, others have copyright
> (or other) claims on them. the examples that free to share will be
> uploaded
> to the macro-parametrics examples page.
>
> Pranveer, if we need some examples to show certain translation
> capabilities,
> or perhaps different CAD formats, then I recommend that you create a few
> new
> examples (that have no legal encumbrances) and add those. It is important
> that we have enough examples that people can repeat this work. Any new CAD
> examples would then also need to be converted using the macro-parametric
> approach.
>
> Eventually we will build a table that lists the various technical
> capabilities
> covered (corresponding to K models and C models). Table information can
> also
> indicate which of various CAD formats are supported.
>
>
> - put the following versions online: original cad format, the macro
>> parametric XML, and the converted X3D
>> - i hope to publish those examples as part of the X3D Basic Archives
>> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic
>>
>
> if you have one example already available, let's start with that.
>
>
> - if we can get the examples accomplished this week, we could add them
>> to the X3D Showcase DVD for SIGGRAPH ASIA next week
>>
>
> showcase is too soon for this work, although maybe we can get 1-2 examples.
> i remain willing to try if you can get some examples free.
>
>
> - i am interested in learning exactly how you used MeshLab and TETGEN
>> (both open source) to accomplish the conversions
>> http://www.meshlab.org
>>
>> TetGen: A Quality Tetrahedral Mesh Generator
>> http://tetgen.berlios.de
>>
>
> Pranveer will show me how to do these steps during my visit to KAIST
> 9-10 December. He can also present these on a CAD conference call at
> a later date for others who want to learn how to do this.
>
>
> - it would also be good to post your XML schema, particularly since that
>> might be something that eventually goes into the X3D Specification
>>
>
> A short description and link to the schema will be placed on the wiki page.
>
> I will produce some corresponding schema documention using XML Spy, similar
> to what we have produced for the X3D schemas. Examples:
>
>
> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#AuthoringSupport
> http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSchemaDocumentation3.2/x3d-3.2.html
>
>
> You might want to present this work at the Web3D Korea Chapter meeting
>> Monday-Tuesday 8-9 December in Seoul at the Korea Palace Hotel. I think
>>
>
> correction: Monday-Tuesday 7-8 December
>
>
> that your colleagues in the Korea Chapter would be very interested in
>> this work. Meeting host is Dr. Myeong Won Lee.
>>
>> I plan to be at KAIST all day Wednesday 9 December. However I will need
>>
>
> correction: Wednesday 9 December
>
>
> a ride from Seoul. Perhaps if you and a classmate are at the chapter
>> meeting Tuesday, we might ride down together on Wednesday. Alternatively
>> I could take the bus or train. What do you think?
>>
>
> tbd. Byounghyun, might you be able to join us?
>
>
> Tomorrow let us also talk about strategy for how this work might advance.
>> I think that providing a general solution for converting different CAD
>> formats into X3D is very important. We should document this very well.
>> We should try to put the support into different X3D tools. I think it
>> is possible that this might even become part of the X3D Specification.
>> Alternatively it might become something like an X3D Recommended Practice.
>> Certainly it will be very important for building realistic and large-scale
>> X3D worlds. There are probably also some excellent business opportunities
>> for some of our Web3D member companies also.
>>
>
> Unfortunately the precise status of our revised X3D CAD Component is
> currently uncertain, Yumetech and EDF need to release an update to the
> working group.
>
> Based on discussions that you have had with Professor Han, I wish to
> recommend that once we are able to repeat your work (by me and others)
> then we start to document it as best makes sense in the form of an
> X3D Recommended Practice. As that matures, and as your full set of
> capabilities is completed/published/tested, then the X3D CAD working
> group can consider whether that form remains satisfactory, or if we
> should propose elevating it as a new contribution to the X3D Specification.
>
> Thanks for reporting all this great progress. We don't need another
> teleconference for a while. I look forward to seeing your latest/greatest
> demonstrations while in Korea, and hope that other Web3D Korea Chapter
> members get to see them too.
>
> Please continue to post improvements and additional details as appropriate
> to your website and to the wiki. Take care Pranveer, see you soon.
>
> References
>
> http://www.macro-parametrics.org
> http://web3d.org/membership/login/memberwiki/index.php
> X3D_CAD_Macro_Parametric_Approach_for_Translation
>
> Web3D Member Documents Directory.
> http://www.web3d.org
> Member Login
> Post or Download Documents in Members Working Group Folders
> folders CAD > Macro
>
> all the best, Don
> -
> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
> Watkins 270 MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA work
> +1.831.656.2149
> X3D, virtual worlds, underwater robots, XMSF
> http://web.nps.navy.mil/~brutzman
>
>
>
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