[X3D-Public] HTML inside X3D or X3D inside HTML. Layout help!

[Joe D Williams]

>     * perhaps we should first only support SVG Tiny, forbidding 
> animation or event passing, in order to make implementation simpler


This would be a fine first step.
Joe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Brutzman" <brutzman at nps.edu>
To: <info at 3dnetproductions.com>; "John Carlson" 
<john.carlson3 at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] HTML inside X3D or X3D inside HTML. Layout 
help!


> This capability and also SvgTexture have been proposed for X3D v3.3.
> Feedback welcome.
>
> From the Web3D member wiki:
>
> http://www.web3d.org/membership/login/memberwiki/index.php/X3D_v3.3_Specification_Changes#SvgTexture_node
>
>> SvgTexture node
>>
>> Perhaps we ought to add an SvgTexture node that allows application 
>> of a Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) image similar to an 
>> ImageTexture.
>>
>> Functionality might be scoped by having 2D portrayal of SVG imagery 
>> as one level, and behavior support as the next level. This would 
>> allow a lightweight X3D plugin to either use the HTML/SVG browser 
>> to render the SVG into an image file, or else connect to a server 
>> to get the image.
>>
>> TODO steps to consider:
>>
>>     * confirm that image size is defined by SVG image
>>     * consider providing a mechanism to pass parameters, perhaps as 
>> a MFString array of name="value" pairs
>>     * map the event models for data passing, perhaps using <field> 
>> definitions similar to Script or shader nodes
>>     * why not simply use ImageTexture node to handle SVG images as 
>> an image format accepted by the url? this approach handles imagery, 
>> though event passing and behaviors might have to be via DOM in 
>> anshared external HTML page
>>
>>     18.6 SvgTexture
>>
>>     SvgTexture: X3DTexture2DNode, X3DUrlObject {
>>       SFNode   [in,out] metadata          NULL [X3DMetadataObject]
>>       MFString [in,out] url               []   [URI]
>>       SFBool   []       repeatS           TRUE
>>       SFBool   []       repeatT           TRUE
>>     }
>>
>>     The SvgTexture node defines a texture map by specifying a 
>> Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG)
>>     file and general parameters for mapping to geometry.
>>
>>     The texture is read from the URL specified by the url field. 
>> When the url field contains
>>     no values ([]), texturing is disabled. Details on the url field 
>> can be found in 9.2.1 URLs.
>>
>>     See 18.2 Concepts, for a general description of texture maps.
>>
>>     See 17 Lighting component for a description of lighting 
>> equations and the interaction
>>     between textures, materials, and geometry appearance.
>>
>>     * perhaps we should first only support SVG Tiny, forbidding 
>> animation or event passing, in order to make implementation simpler
>>
>>     * perhaps there is a server site that accepts SVG input and 
>> provides PNG output? this would facilitate conversion for users who 
>> are connected to the Internet
>
> http://www.web3d.org/membership/login/memberwiki/index.php/X3D_v3.3_Specification_Changes#Other_texture_types
>
>> Other texture types
>>
>> Consider HtmlTexture/BrowserTexture
>>
>>     * Vivaty HtmlTexture
>>     * Fraunhofer BrowserTexture
>>
>> Consider pros and cons of generalizing these various texture 
>> extensions
>>
>>     * does image size need to be retrievable somehow? perhaps an 
>> SAI call or an outputOnly event?
>>     * such features can be independently provided as images via a 
>> server
>>     * usability of an HTML page usually suffers if text is not 
>> crisply rendered for easy reading and interaction
>>     * should interactivity be preserved?
>>     * Which profile?
>
> all the best, Don
> -- 
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