[x3d-public] [x3d] V4.0 Open discussion/workshop on X3D HTML integration > brainstorming > protos

Leonard Daly Leonard.Daly at realism.com
Thu Jun 9 15:55:32 PDT 2016


Doug,
>
> creative strategy example > protos
>
> when it comes to protos, an element of that was something about 
> Script. If you can't have a Script node then what's the point of 
> protos. But html does have scirpts. Am I right to break that down into:
>
> e1 scripts can't be run-time instanced ie if you have one copy of a 
> script, you can't make another copy at runtime with the same name
>
>
> other domains > adware
>
> I see lots of advertisements popping up in webpages. I suspect they 
> have their own scripts and content. Is it possible to instance 2 ads 
> of the same type on the same page? If so, how do they do it, without 
> confusing the scripts?
>
> so an adware solution to the script part of proto would be an element 
> solution from another domain.
>


I have adBlock running, so I see fewer ads than you might be seeing. In 
the past when I have looked at ads they typically come in one of the 
following flavors:
1) iFrames - completely separate HTML page with its own DOM
2) Flash - obsolete animation technology with built-in scripting
3) Static - no scripting required. Everything is in the link. This could 
include animated GIF/PNG as that is a self-contained static file. Also 
movies in HTML5 don't need scripting.

(1) and (2) have their own "space", so multiple identical ads can appear 
without conflict. Scripts inside of an iFrame cannot access the parent 
DOM. It may be from a different web site and browser sandboxing prevents 
that. You can't have scripts in one or more iFrames that interact with 
the main page.

The less said about Flash, the better.


Leonard Daly






>
> You would write that into the table and keep going.
>
>
>
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> *From:* x3d-public <x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org> on behalf of doug 
> sanden <highaspirations at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* June 9, 2016 12:00 PM
> *To:* 'X3D Graphics public mailing list'
> *Subject:* Re: [x3d-public] [x3d] V4.0 Open discussion/workshop on X3D 
> HTML integration > brainstorming
>
> > Solutions to issues will be found. They may start as ideas contributed by 
> individuals.
>
> > Brainstorming is an excellent activity. But they will  arise more easily with 
> greater understanding.
>
>
> Yes there's a book "Creative Strategy" with 3 steps:
>
> 1. break it down (into problem 'elements')
>
> 2. search (in other domains/fields/areas-of-practice/toolsets for 
> solution to an element)
>
> 3. combine (some selection of solutions to elements from other 
> domains, into a total solution)
>
> Think of a matrix with problem elements down the side, and 
> domains/sources of solutions across the top:
>
> Problem:
>
> ______d1________d2______d3__________d4
>
> e1
>
> e2
>
> e3
>
> e4
>
> then fill in the table by searching.
>
> The creative part comes in the recombining element solutions at the end.
>
>
> I suspect you guys are doing a pretty good job of breaking it into 
> elements.
>
>
>
> -Doug
>
> more..
>
> http://cup.columbia.edu/book/creative-strategy/9780231160520
> https://sites.google.com/site/airdrieinnovationinstitute/creative-strategy
>
>
> I apologize as a non-member for not being more active in v4. Not an 
> html or js guru. I could perhaps search other domains for element 
> solutions.
>
>
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*Leonard Daly*
3D Systems & Cloud Consultant
X3D Co-Chair on Sabbatical
LA ACM SIGGRAPH Chair
President, Daly Realism - /Creating the Future/
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