[x3d-public] vrml to x3d field name changes

Andreas Plesch andreasplesch at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 15:42:46 PDT 2018


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> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:26:31 -0600
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> Subject: Re: [x3d-public] vrml to x3d field name changes
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> Yes - freewrl has a couple of mechanisms:
> - each node knows what context (scene, Inline, protobody) it belongs to
> - and each context knows what specs version its scene file declared
> Or for a few nodes like LOD, it has a private field that gets flagged as
> isX3D during parsing if v3.0+
> -Doug
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Thanks. I think that is similar to what x_ite has. Just out of curiosity,
since a node knows its context, and then the context its spec.
version/encoding, is the isX3D private field more for convenience, and
perhaps performance ?
What other nodes have that private field ?

Andreas

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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>
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> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > that could work but without further changes I think may just reverse
> > the problem due to the way x_ite currently works. In a vrml scene
> > 'level_changed' would then become a recognized output SFInt field
> > although it should be treated as the equivalent of the x3d
> > 'children_changed' field synonym.
> >
> > It seems it is just a question at which level these differences
> > between vrml and x3d are addressed best,
> >
> > -Andreas
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:01:17 -0600
> > > From: GPU Group <gpugroup at gmail.com>
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> > > Subject: Re: [x3d-public] vrml to x3d field name changes
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> > > When hooking up routes, use a 2-pass search:
> > > 1. exact match
> > > if didn't find then
> > > 2. synonym match ie set_, _changed
> > > -Doug
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Andreas Plesch <
> andreasplesch at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> The 'level_changed' field of the LOD node
> > >> (http://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V3.3/Part01/
> > >> components/navigation.html#LOD)
> > >> currently does not work in the x_ite browser although it is correctly
> > >> implemented. The problem is that x_ite also understands vrml97 and
> > >> aliases vrml field names to equivalent x3d field names in a
> > >> straightforward manner
> > >> (https://github.com/create3000/x_ite/issues/11). This is fine in most
> > >> cases but for the LOD node it leads to a conflict. Vrml has a 'level'
> > >> field (http://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/
> > >> 14772/V2.0/part1/nodesRef.html#LOD)
> > >> which is aliased to the corresponding 'children' x3d field. A
> > >> 'level_changed' event therefore is then treated as output from the
> > >> MFNode 'children' field, and not as output from the SFInt
> > >> 'level_changed' field.
> > >>
> > >> A possible fix is to only do the aliasing if we know the original
> > >> encoding of the LOD node was vrml. This fix may be ok if the LOD node
> > >> is the only node which could have this conflict stemming from renaming
> > >> a vrml field ('level' to 'children') and at the same time introducing
> > >> a new x3d field ('level_changed') with the old vrml name of the
> > >> renamed field.
> > >>
> > >> So my question is if there may be other nodes with fields which were
> > >> affected by renaming from vrml to x3d in such a way ?
> > >>
> > >> If there are a few others it may be worth looking for a solution which
> > >> does not need special treatment of certain nodes.
> > >>
> > >> -Andreas
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Andreas Plesch
> > >> Waltham, MA 02453
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