[x3d-public] Discussion about another ECMAScript SAI Library.

John Carlson yottzumm at gmail.com
Wed Apr 8 12:13:23 PDT 2020


examples for jsonschema-generator only show 1 client class.  Whether this
is enough, remains to be seen.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 2:04 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Don:  One may be interested in generating JSON schema from Java classes (a
> new twist), replacing prototype Python code:
>
> https://github.com/victools/jsonschema-generator
>
> Kambi, you may be interested in this Delphi app:
>
> https://github.com/schlothauer-wauer/DJsonSchema
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 1:45 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> google "create ECMAScript classes from JSON schema"
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 1:42 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm.  Other, perhaps better links are showing up for constructing
>>> ECMAScript classes from JSON schema.  Anyone care to review them?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 1:28 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you read anything in this email, read the final paragraph.
>>>>
>>>> $ wc x_ite.js
>>>>  117547  459584 3631471 x_ite.js
>>>> $ wc x3dom-full.js
>>>>    8211   29765 1526481 x3dom-full.js
>>>>
>>>> Current ECMAScript library version of X3DJSAIL
>>>> $ find org -name '*.js'|xargs cat|wc
>>>>  530284 2544727 30175297
>>>>
>>>> As you can see, a potential library created from X3DJSAIL would be
>>>> around 300MB, much larger than x_ite.js or x3dom-full.js.
>>>>
>>>> What are the benefits to the ECMAScript developer for X3DESAIL?
>>>> validation? use of stylesheets?  Is that worth 270MB, downloaded over the
>>>> web?  Especially if ECMAScripts are also downloaded, and may be excluded
>>>> from the application by ECMAScript blockers?
>>>>
>>>> Consider that all the JSON schemas together are only 3MB, or 144kB
>>>> compressed:
>>>>
>>>> $ wc x3d-[3-4]*a.json
>>>>   15638   25131  401463 x3d-3.0-JSONSchema.json
>>>>   18179   29269  467163 x3d-3.1-JSONSchema.json
>>>>   26266   42638  679482 x3d-3.2-JSONSchema.json
>>>>   28221   45877  731894 x3d-3.3-JSONSchema.json
>>>>   28801   46716  751848 x3d-4.0-JSONSchema.json
>>>>  117105  189631 3031850 total
>>>>
>>>> $ cat x3d-[3-4]*a.json|gzip -c|wc
>>>>     586    3029  143877
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it would be better to develop an X3DESAIL from JSON schema
>>>> instead of X3DUOM? :) :)   What if we could create X3D potential libraries
>>>> from *any* JSON schema?
>>>>
>>>> Are we just trying to do SAI on the web?   Isn't that what X_ITE does?
>>>>
>>>> Surely there is already a second implementation of ECMAScript SAI???
>>>>
>>>> It would seem like a good target for X3DESAIL would be 1100kB--The
>>>> difference between X_ITE and X3DOM.   What are the differences between
>>>> X_ITE and X3DOM, and when should I choose one over the other (I've heard
>>>> Leonard's comment that X_ITE is not enterprise s/w).
>>>>
>>>> I do not have extensive knowledge of either X_ITE or X3DOM.  I learned
>>>> just enough to slide X3DJSONLD and the PrototypeExpander (only for X3DOM)
>>>> into the codebases.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would be better to focus on particular tags that would be
>>>> useful as a replacement for a lot of ECMAScript, moving even farther away
>>>> from dependency on scripts? What can we learn from our current scripts?
>>>>
>>>> I've already suggested that we use D3.js as a basis for new tags for
>>>> data visualization.  What tag support is there currently for data
>>>> visualization (charts)?  I've also suggested that we have XPath or similar
>>>> for route to/from nodes.   What can we learn from OpenInventor?
>>>>
>>>> This appears like a fairly good way to get an ECMAScript library  from
>>>> JSON schema:
>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55157190/generate-javascript-classes-from-json-schema/55157356
>>>> what do you think?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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