[x3d-public] View3DScene in X3D-edit 4.0 on Linux

John Carlson yottzumm at gmail.com
Tue Jun 1 17:30:45 PDT 2021


Oh, good.   I thought the behavior was Linux only.   Thanks for
confirmation.

I don’t know of defaults.   I run freewrl out of ~/Downloads

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 6:46 PM Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:

> Hi John, yes it certainly sounds like X3D-Edit is the cause of the
> confusion you are describing.
>
> When I try to change and save the view3dscene preferences, encountered the
> same problem.
>
> Found and fixed the bug in source code, change checked in.
>
> We are still having trouble with a bug that crept in Sunday night, will
> report when next release is available.
>
> Thanks for this helpful issue report.
>
> p.s. still happy to get improved default locations of linux or macos for
> any of these tools.
>
> On 5/31/2021 7:50 PM, John Carlson wrote:
> >
> >
> > It's not the file overwritten, it's the text field entry in X3D-Edit
> > Preferences.   And when you try to launch the preference you've
> > overwritten, to use view3dscene, it tries to launch "VivatyPlayer."   --
> > "Error launching external viewer: Cannot run program "VivatyPlayer" (in
> > directory "/tmp"): error=2, No such file or directory"  -- Sorry for any
> > confusion.  The preference entry for viewx3dscene becomes
> > "SwirlX3DPlayer", which is even more confusing. On top of that, the
> > view3dScene menu item in the "View Saved Scene" menu does not get
> enabled.
> >
> > Again, the FreeWRL preference works perfectly AFAICT, so it's very
> > confusing!
> >
> > On 5/31/21 2:10 PM, Michalis Kamburelis wrote:
> >> To be honest I find it hard to believe that something else, not
> >> view3dscene, brutally overwrites "/usr/bin/view3dscene" file. Are you
> >> sure this is the case?
> >>
> >> It seems much more likely that you simply miss "/usr/bin/view3dscene"
> >> file and X3D-Edit just makes a fallback on some other X3D browser. I
> >> do not know how did you install view3dscene, but (as I wrote above) it
> >> is not necessarily in /usr/bin/ (as non-root you may not even have
> >> permissions to put it there). If you got view3dscene from
> >>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0
> , then it is wherever you
> >> unpacked it -- and only you know where. Maybe
> >> "/home/<myusername>/Downloads/view3dscene/view3dscene"?  It really
> >> completely depends on you.
> >>
> >> If you are sure that something overwrites "/usr/bin/view3dscene",
> >> please show me the output of
> >>
> >> ls -Flah /usr/bin/view3dscene
> >>
> >> strings /usr/bin/view3dscene > view3dscene-strings.txt
> >>
> >> on your system.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Michalis
> >>
> >> pon., 31 maj 2021 o 19:17 John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> napisał(a):
> >>> When I specify /usr/bin/view3dscene and press launch, it tries to
> VivatyPlayer.  SwirlX3Dplayer (sp?) overwrites /usr/bin/view3dscene.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:05 AM Michalis Kamburelis <
> michalis.kambi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> What is the problem exactly? Where is the bugreport?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you download view3dscene from
> >>>>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0
> , it is a zip file, and the
> >>>> binary is available whenever you unpacked it.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you installed view3dscene from binary packages, it is available in
> >>>> /usr/bin/ , but you should probably not hardcode this path. It is
> >>>> available on $PATH , and you should call it assuming that.
> >>>>
> >>>> There's nothing special about launching view3dscene. I mean we have a
> >>>> number of command-line options (
> >>>>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php%23section_command_line_options&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=HAlPqOaUr5Kur1vptkJaYeKP69ozPBqFkLh%2BGadz5RU%3D&reserved=0
> >>>> ) but from X3D-Edit you probably just want to launch it with 1
> >>>> parameter - filename of X3D scene. view3dscene isn't different from
> >>>> freewrl or other viewers in this regard.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Michalis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> niedz., 30 maj 2021 o 16:55 John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> napisał(a):
> >>>>> I believe view3dscene gets installed in /usr/bin, last I checked,
> but Michalis would know better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 9:52 AM Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/29/2021 12:05 PM, John Carlson wrote:
> >>>>>>> Michalis, you may want to monitor the bug report for adding
> view3dscene as an x3d player in X3D-Edit 4.0 on Linux.  I don’t know if
> your users use X3D-Edit or not.   I haven’t dug into why adding view3dscene
> doesn’t work yet.   Note that adding freewrl does work, so I’m puzzled.
> >>>>>> Agreed, please let me know how to set defaults correctly.  X3D-Edit
> includes author-convenience functionality for launching related X3D viewers
> and authoring tools effectively.  The source includes user-modifiable
> default installation locations for Windows Mac and Linux, so I'm happy to
> include any updated default values whenever possible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * X3D-Edit Preferences panel exposes numerous settings for users
> >>>>>>     https://savage.nps.edu/X3D-Edit/#Features
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> all the best, Don
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
> >>>>>> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
> +1.831.656.2149
> >>>>>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>
> all the best, Don
> --
> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA   +1.831.656.2149
> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>
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