[x3d-public] View3DScene in X3D-edit 4.0 on Linux

Tue Jun 1 17:43:35 PDT 2021

It might be interesting to get Vivaty working with a windows emulator.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:30 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, good.   I thought the behavior was Linux only.   Thanks for
> confirmation.
>
> I don’t know of defaults.   I run freewrl out of ~/Downloads
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 6:46 PM Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi John, yes it certainly sounds like X3D-Edit is the cause of the
>> confusion you are describing.
>>
>> When I try to change and save the view3dscene preferences, encountered
>> the same problem.
>>
>> Found and fixed the bug in source code, change checked in.
>>
>> We are still having trouble with a bug that crept in Sunday night, will
>> report when next release is available.
>>
>> Thanks for this helpful issue report.
>>
>> p.s. still happy to get improved default locations of linux or macos for
>> any of these tools.
>>
>> On 5/31/2021 7:50 PM, John Carlson wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > It's not the file overwritten, it's the text field entry in X3D-Edit
>> > Preferences.   And when you try to launch the preference you've
>> > overwritten, to use view3dscene, it tries to launch "VivatyPlayer."   --
>> > "Error launching external viewer: Cannot run program "VivatyPlayer" (in
>> > directory "/tmp"): error=2, No such file or directory"  -- Sorry for any
>> > confusion.  The preference entry for viewx3dscene becomes
>> > "SwirlX3DPlayer", which is even more confusing. On top of that, the
>> > view3dScene menu item in the "View Saved Scene" menu does not get
>> enabled.
>> >
>> > Again, the FreeWRL preference works perfectly AFAICT, so it's very
>> > confusing!
>> >
>> > On 5/31/21 2:10 PM, Michalis Kamburelis wrote:
>> >> To be honest I find it hard to believe that something else, not
>> >> view3dscene, brutally overwrites "/usr/bin/view3dscene" file. Are you
>> >> sure this is the case?
>> >>
>> >> It seems much more likely that you simply miss "/usr/bin/view3dscene"
>> >> file and X3D-Edit just makes a fallback on some other X3D browser. I
>> >> do not know how did you install view3dscene, but (as I wrote above) it
>> >> is not necessarily in /usr/bin/ (as non-root you may not even have
>> >> permissions to put it there). If you got view3dscene from
>> >>
>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0
>> , then it is wherever you
>> >> unpacked it -- and only you know where. Maybe
>> >> "/home/<myusername>/Downloads/view3dscene/view3dscene"?  It really
>> >> completely depends on you.
>> >>
>> >> If you are sure that something overwrites "/usr/bin/view3dscene",
>> >> please show me the output of
>> >>
>> >> ls -Flah /usr/bin/view3dscene
>> >>
>> >> strings /usr/bin/view3dscene > view3dscene-strings.txt
>> >>
>> >> on your system.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Michalis
>> >>
>> >> pon., 31 maj 2021 o 19:17 John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>> napisał(a):
>> >>> When I specify /usr/bin/view3dscene and press launch, it tries to
>> VivatyPlayer.  SwirlX3Dplayer (sp?) overwrites /usr/bin/view3dscene.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:05 AM Michalis Kamburelis <
>> michalis.kambi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> What is the problem exactly? Where is the bugreport?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you download view3dscene from
>> >>>>
>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0
>> , it is a zip file, and the
>> >>>> binary is available whenever you unpacked it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you installed view3dscene from binary packages, it is available in
>> >>>> /usr/bin/ , but you should probably not hardcode this path. It is
>> >>>> available on $PATH , and you should call it assuming that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There's nothing special about launching view3dscene. I mean we have a
>> >>>> number of command-line options (
>> >>>>
>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php%23section_command_line_options&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=HAlPqOaUr5Kur1vptkJaYeKP69ozPBqFkLh%2BGadz5RU%3D&reserved=0
>> >>>> ) but from X3D-Edit you probably just want to launch it with 1
>> >>>> parameter - filename of X3D scene. view3dscene isn't different from
>> >>>> freewrl or other viewers in this regard.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Michalis
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> niedz., 30 maj 2021 o 16:55 John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>> napisał(a):
>> >>>>> I believe view3dscene gets installed in /usr/bin, last I checked,
>> but Michalis would know better.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> John
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 9:52 AM Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 5/29/2021 12:05 PM, John Carlson wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Michalis, you may want to monitor the bug report for adding
>> view3dscene as an x3d player in X3D-Edit 4.0 on Linux.  I don’t know if
>> your users use X3D-Edit or not.   I haven’t dug into why adding view3dscene
>> doesn’t work yet.   Note that adding freewrl does work, so I’m puzzled.
>> >>>>>> Agreed, please let me know how to set defaults correctly.
>> X3D-Edit includes author-convenience functionality for launching related
>> X3D viewers and authoring tools effectively.  The source includes
>> user-modifiable default installation locations for Windows Mac and Linux,
>> so I'm happy to include any updated default values whenever possible.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * X3D-Edit Preferences panel exposes numerous settings for users
>> >>>>>>     https://savage.nps.edu/X3D-Edit/#Features
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> all the best, Don
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
>> brutzman at nps.edu
>> >>>>>> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
>> +1.831.656.2149
>> >>>>>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
>> http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>>
>> all the best, Don
>> --
>> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
>> brutzman at nps.edu
>> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
>>  +1.831.656.2149
>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
>> http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>>
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