[x3d-public] HAnim Schematron output sampled

[Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)]

Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful.  We definitely have had some mixed signals here.

 

Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:

a.	Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root
b.	Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1
c.	Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1

 

I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly – X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..

 

Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.

 

Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.

 

all the best, Don

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From: Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net> 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM
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Subject: RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled

 

*	vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac  
*	l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
*	r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 

 

Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is correct according to the diagram. 

Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. 

Joe

 

 

 

From: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <mailto:brutzman at nps.edu> 
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Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled

 

Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. 

 

Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:

*	suspect joint or segment name, 
*	the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and 
*	the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.

 

If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together.  Onward…

 

v/r Don



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Subject: RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled 

 

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Hi, 

The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. 

The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. 

 

*	Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!

 

No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.

The diagrams are correct. 

Joe

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM
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Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled

 

 

 


vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!

l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please confirm.

r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please confirm. 

 

 

 

 

 

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