[x3d-public] Fwd: HAnim Schematron output sampled

[John Carlson]

Next steps.

John
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From: John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
To: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>


 Next steps for LOA4 HAnim model:  try moving around the output of found*
measurements in the *sed.sh scripts

Regenerate skeleton one more time and display for proofing skeleton in
view3dscene, collect and fix issues.

Figure out the measurements left to populate.

Report missing measurements.   See if output model changed.

Look at Joe file to see how skin is done (attach to sites?)

Probably I’ll begin work in a couple of hours.

At some point, figure out transformations  that are excessive and try to
recompute measurements below the transforms, take out transforms that have
been nullified.



John
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 9:02 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful.  We definitely have had some
> mixed signals here.
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> Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:
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>    1. Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root
>    2. Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1
>    3. Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1
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> I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly –
> X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..
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> Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.
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> Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.
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> all the best, Don
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> *From:* Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM
> *To:* Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>; John Carlson <
> yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject:* RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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>    - vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac
>    - l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
>    - r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
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> Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is
> correct according to the diagram.
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> Much to discuss regarding some existing examples.
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> Joe
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> *From: *Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM
> *To: *Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; John Carlson
> <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet….
> Clarity his critical.
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> Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:
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>    - suspect joint or segment name,
>    - the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and
>    - the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.
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> If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections
> available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on
> it together.  Onward…
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> v/r Don
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> *From:* Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM
> *To:* John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
> brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject:* RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> Hi,
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> The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and
> vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong.
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> The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and
> loa4.
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>    - Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.
>     X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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> No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.
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> The diagrams are correct.
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> Joe
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> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM
> *To: *Joe D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; Don Brutzman
> <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list
> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5 is
> a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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> l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
> confirm.
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> r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
> confirm.
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