[x3d-public] 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI) review/revision and completion timeline
John Carlson
yottzumm at gmail.com
Fri Feb 16 13:21:24 PST 2024
Looks good. No further changes.
John
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 3:08 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
> Thanks for your comment. We have entered this in Mantis as issue 1451 and
> applied the change in version.
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> - Event interface touchup table 6.2
> - https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1451
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> We specifically think that the following change to row 4 is appropriate.
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> - Table 6.2 — SAI request conventions
> -
> https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1/Part02/services.html#t-Conventions
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> events: The first event
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> The second event
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> (any additional events)
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> We have approved and applied this change.
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> We do not think any modifications to 6.3.14 loadURL are necessary. Please
> advise if you think we missed anything.
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>
> Thanks your helpful contribution.
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>
> all the best, Don
>
> --
>
> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
>
> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
> +1.831.656.2149
>
> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>
>
>
> *From:* John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2024 8:02 PM
> *To:* Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>; Richard F. Puk <
> puk at igraphics.com>
> *Subject:* Fwd: [x3d-public] 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI)
> review/revision and completion timeline
>
>
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> Don, Richard, the image in this email was too large to send to the public
> list.
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> Possible important update to SAI Table 6.2 “events:” row, one needs to add
> a third event to match 6.3.14 loadURL section’s 3 events.
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> I don’t know browsers well enough to know whether SAI generates all these
> events or not.
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> Please forward/include in Mantis.
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> I looked through the changes, and did not see anything else warranting
> further wordsmithing.
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>
> John
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *John Carlson* <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [x3d-public] 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI)
> review/revision and completion timeline
> To: Extensible 3D (X3D) Graphics public discussion <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>
>
>
> Don, I noticed that Table 6.2 had “events:” (in the first column) as “The
> first event” “The second event” (in the second column), but there is 6.3.14
> loadURL (below) which has 3 events. My suggestion would be to add “The
> third event” as a phrase in the second column of Table 6.2, along with the
> other two events.
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> No, I do not know how I do this without reading the standard carefully.
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> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 8:02 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) via
> x3d-public <x3d-public at web3d.org> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone. Any comments on updated draft for X3D SAI 4.0? All
> comments always welcome.
>
>
>
> - Extensible 3D (X3D) — Part 2: Scene access interface (SAI)
> - ISO/IEC 19775-2:202x
> - https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1
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>
> which is part of a family of specifications, illustrated at:
>
> - X3D Graphics Standards Relationships
> -
> https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dGraphicsStandardsRelationships.png
> -
> https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dGraphicsStandardsRelationships.pdf
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> all centered on
>
> - X3D 4.0 Architecture
> - https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-IS/
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>
>
> As planned, and as leads of X3D Standards Working Group, Dick and I plan
> to meet tomorrow February 16 at 1230 pacific on our usual Web3D
> teleconference line. We will prepare documentation of Working Draft
> submission to ISO. This will first be circulated to Web3D Board of
> Directors and membership for information and review.
>
>
>
> Have fun with X3D!
>
>
>
> all the best, Don
>
> --
>
> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
>
> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
> +1.831.656.2149
>
> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>
>
>
> *From:* Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)
> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2024 5:44 PM
> *To:* X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public at web3d.org) <x3d-public at web3d.org>;
> x3d at web3d.org
> *Cc:* Richard Puk <puk at igraphics.com>; Web3D Consortium <
> consortium at web3d.org>; brutzman at nps.edu
> *Subject:* RE: 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI) review/revision and
> completion timeline
>
>
>
> X3D Stakeholders:
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>
>
> Dick and I completed our review of all 19775-2 Scene Access Interface
> (SAI) general issues today. We think it is ready for submission as an
> ISO/IEC Working Draft (WD).
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>
>
> Issue list attached with the majority all resolved. Six remain that
> deserve consideration once we review later in the year how some programming
> languages “get the job done” for X3D. We prefer to leave these issues open
> in the SAI Working Draft while we continue updating other X3D
> programming-language bindings that implement 19775-2.
>
>
>
> - Web3D Mantis Issues – SAI
> - https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php
> - Screenshot summary and text listing of all issues attached
> - https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1
>
>
>
> As described below, here are next steps:
>
>
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> - Immediate: Call for comments and 10 days review, x3d-public and
> Web3D Consortium members.
> - 1200 pacific Friday 16 FEB: editors review of all comments, and
> completion of Working Draft version.
> - We then submit WD 1 for Web3D Consortium Board of Directors review
> and subsequent ISO submission.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all review and many efforts. Have fun with X3D!
>
>
>
> all the best, Don
>
> --
>
> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
>
> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
> +1.831.656.2149
>
> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>
>
>
> *From:* Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2024 12:26 PM
> *To:* Richard Puk <puk at igraphics.com>
> *Cc:* x3d at web3d.org; brutzman at nps.edu
> *Subject:* RE: 19775-2 Scene Access Interface (SAI) review/revision and
> completion timeline
>
>
>
> Hi Dick, hope all is well.
>
>
>
> I have gone through all 11 of the remaining 11 SAI issues in Mantis,
> addressing most.
>
> - Web3D Mantis Issues (use filter for SAI 19775-2)
> - https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php
> - Screenshot summary list of remaining issues attached
> - https://web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1
>
>
>
> Record of changes, each marked with corresponding Mantis issue number:
>
> - Web3D Consortium GitHub Archive
> - https://github.com/Web3dConsortium
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FWeb3dConsortium&data=05%7C02%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cee2a75ff6d0b4e0f194008dc2ea4116b%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C638436529429355274%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=LIeHuPXuA088OgJVUuijfQwm0jEYqIKLf7%2F5HOXPRmc%3D&reserved=0>
> -
> https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC19775/ISO-IEC19775-2/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0/ISO-IEC19775-2v4.0-WD1
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>
>
>
> Am thinking we can get through all of them on Monday, with later
> discussion in next X3D Standards Working Group meeting (please note that I
> will miss next Friday 9 FEB). For consideration during our upcoming review
> session (planned for this Monday afternoon, 1600 pacific), suggested
> timeline:
>
>
>
> - Call for comments and 2 weeks review, x3d-public and Web3D
> Consortium members,
> - Resolution in February, perhaps 2 or 3 issues remaining open in this
> Working Draft while we continue updating other X3D programming-language
> bindings that implement 19775-2,
> - Submit WD 1 for Web3D Consortium Board of Directors approval (and
> then ISO balloting) by end of month.
>
>
>
> Thanks for continuing steady progress, take care.
>
>
>
> Membership has value – have fun with X3D SAI! 😊
>
>
>
> all the best, Don
>
> --
>
> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
>
> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
> +1.831.656.2149
>
> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Puk <puk at igraphics.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:30 PM
> *To:* Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D at web3d.org
> *Subject:* Apologies
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I apologize but I will be unable to attend tomorrow’s X3D Specification
> meeting.
>
>
>
> - Dick
>
>
>
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